To China and the world - We do NOT apologize

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posted on Nov, 17 2010 @ 01:47 PM
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bluestar.ranch




posted on Nov, 17 2010 @ 01:49 PM
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I strctly asked the name not be said on this thread to protect the privacy of that poster. I guess you think you are funny.



posted on Nov, 17 2010 @ 01:49 PM
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Originally posted by Misoir
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Do not mention the name of this member on my thread!

www.abovetopsecret.com...


I think Star Farmer would sum that name up.






and no, we shouldn't apologize to China, sure the US is evil blah blah, whats new we hear that every day.the envy of nations.
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posted on Nov, 17 2010 @ 01:53 PM
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You don't make the rulez right? IMO, and it will probably cost me 20 points again for going off topic again, LIC, It is a similair thread as the one you want to go against, strict;ly asking to don't mention the name, hiding it behind privacy, but readable as hiding it to conform to T&C..

Why should I be funny?


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posted on Nov, 17 2010 @ 01:55 PM
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yes, sir. this is definitely a "much needed" thread. the world would have never known how overly-proud, self-riteous, and unapologetic 75% of the american population is without the making of this thread.
both threads are silly and pointless and quite frankly i don't think the chinese government gives a s# whether americans on ATS are sorry or not.



posted on Nov, 17 2010 @ 01:55 PM
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Well good if you Aussies don’t like us ‘Yanks’ that’s fine with us.

Another country that would be kowtowing to the Japanese emperor if not for the US of A.

The Japs made meals of Aussies in New Guinea. No really the Japanese soldiers ATE them, as in dinner.

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posted on Nov, 17 2010 @ 01:56 PM
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I didn't even bother looking at that "other" thread when it popped up the other day. Why do we need to apologize to anyone? Geeze, grow a backbone. It's people like that who get dodge ball and prayer taken out of school. I still won't go look at that "other" thread, but thanks for posting this one. I'm sure people will have all kinds of retorts to your OP, but so what? The United States of America is still a great place to be!! U-S-A! U-S-A!



posted on Nov, 17 2010 @ 01:57 PM
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Originally posted by Lysergic

Originally posted by Misoir
reply to post by butcherguy
 


Do not mention the name of this member on my thread!

www.abovetopsecret.com...


I think Star Farmer would sum that name up.






and no, we shouldn't apologize to China, sure the US is evil blah blah, whats new we hear that every day.the envy of nations.
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The stars are blue, too!

I posted on that thread, no stars for that one.



posted on Nov, 17 2010 @ 01:57 PM
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well, an apology wouldnt be enough for Afghanistan, Iraq and all the muslims



posted on Nov, 17 2010 @ 01:59 PM
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I wonder how well the US would manage if it were home to roughly 20% of the world's population.

Think we would still be a democracy?

I know the patriots would definitely be pissed if they had to stand next to a "foreigner" while waiting in line at McDonalds.



posted on Nov, 17 2010 @ 02:00 PM
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Explanation: I agree and my anger is equal opportunity and I'm pissed at my CONSTITUTION not just the previous administrations of the Australian Government and or Parliment!

Here is why...

Australia IS inherently RACIST!....


Commonwealth Of Australia Constitution Act
Chapter I. The Parliament.
Part V - Powers of the Parliament
51.The Parliament shall, subject to this Constitution, have power to make laws for the peace, order, and good government of the Commonwealth with respect to: -

(xxvi.) The people of any race, for whom it is deemed necessary to make special laws:


When it has already agreed that there is only ONE RACE and it is the Human Race...

Universal Declaration of Human Rights [un.org]

So I'm ticked off at everybody... not even my mum gets a free freaking hail mary pass on any of these issues!

Personal Disclosure: See here....

Typical American (thread by hotbakedtater , post by OmegaLogos) [ATS]


But when I see many ATS members who claim US citizenship who are unwilling to admit any wrong doing either personally or as a nation and furthermore when either has been shown to be a false moral position to hold then they refuse to either apologize personally or collectively as a nation, then OL is forced as a last resort to discount them as being humans and to count them instead as monsters [of which I myself am one...so I know exactly how to identify them]. Thankfully enough ATS members claiming US citizenship counterpoint those points of view [such as yourself
] and so I haven't written you all off as worthless
's just yet etc!


Personal Disclosure: OL is an Australian... and I have many a bone to pick with my fellow US ATS members... the JSF is just one of many BS deals and YOUR Mr. Potus failing to visit Oz has me so freaking
that the US embassy just down the road [OL is in ACT Canberra the Capitiol OK] has the biggest target painted on it and my trigger finger is ever so itchy... RC [radio controlled] Drones, Google Earth and my legally insane self [DSP disabillity support pension due to schizophrenia... the violent paranoid kind
] are just some of my friends
willing to help me do this... Me and that army OK!


Do I need to remind everybody that Arkans Tigers [about 50 well armed serbian soldiers] TOTALLY screwed with over 20,000 Bosnian Croats and Muslims over a few months period during the Bosnian war in the early 1990's!

So 20yrs later imagine what ONE well prepared insane Australian could do!


I'm Not JOKING!


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posted on Nov, 17 2010 @ 02:02 PM
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***********************************************************************************************************************************

I admit it... I wrote the post.. "I apoligize to the world"... My entire post was that American govt is not pristine and pure... I am appealing for PEACE in the world.. We all know that China as a country has issues too....They are a communist country.. but everyone.. communists, socialists, democrats, republicans, athesits, religious, not religious...EVERYONE EVERYONE (yes, I am speaking about even YOU) deserve a planet that is peacful and EVERYONE should respect others rights....NO ONE REALLY wants WAR....

Very few people really endorse war.. ( except high ranking govt officials that have underground bunkers and the criminal bankers that make a TON OF MONEY)

LOOK At the post again... please answer this... what is wrong WITH ASKING FOR PEACE IN THE WORLD?

(by the way nice title to your clip..., maybe think of your own TITLE next time, instead of copying mine)



posted on Nov, 17 2010 @ 02:03 PM
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Yeah, they force restrictions on the number of children women can have because they're dangerously overpopulated.
The sooner America stops policing the world, the sooner the terrorists will leave us alone. Why don't you use your outrage for something useful like legalizing large-scale hemp fiber production?



posted on Nov, 17 2010 @ 02:06 PM
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There is nothing wrong with asking for peace but you were pretty much pleading with China not to bomb the USA. That is not asking that is pleading rather large difference.

When you create a thread to refute a different thread you sort of want to have a title that refutes the other one. Just saying…
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posted on Nov, 17 2010 @ 02:06 PM
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posted on Nov, 17 2010 @ 02:09 PM
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moved post
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posted on Nov, 17 2010 @ 02:13 PM
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Explanation: St*rred!

You make me want to become human! Unfortunately I'm a monster
But you inspire me to be better! Thank You!


I have posted repeatedly recently about the Universal Declaration of Human Rights! Specifically...


Article 1.
•All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights.They are endowed with reason and conscience and should act towards one another in a spirit of brotherhood.


Universal Declaration of Human Rights [un.org]

Personal Disclosure: You post has calmed me! OL was quite
and unstable these past few hrs!


P.S. Focusing on peace and not war right now..thanks for reminding me that they are my brothers and not my enemy!



posted on Nov, 17 2010 @ 02:14 PM
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Even though we suck right now, America is still better than everyone else.



posted on Nov, 17 2010 @ 02:29 PM
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Originally posted by Misoir
If you believe the USA needs to apologize to China go on over there and live in China for a while. Then come back and tell us which country is better.


I've lived in the PRC, and it's not as bad as people paint it out to be. I've also lived in several other countries, besides my native U.S.A, and have formed the conclusion that every country has positives and negatives. Every state puts self preservation before anything else, including its citizens. The citizens of each country are helpless against the few who impose their will and ideals upon us all. To me, leaders are all the same, as it seems they sit around dreaming up new scams to grab total control. Many of us allow ourselves to get caught up in blind nationalism, and buy into the illusion that our system is the best. That is the real danger to humanity.

I also see little difference between the Kent State massacre and the Tiananmen Square massacre. The differences only come after the events. For the U.S.A., the event led to new laws that are meant to protect us from this happening again, and in China it led to more oppression. I'm sure there are people in the U.S.A. who are trying to figure out how to get the tanks rolling out into the neighborhoods.



posted on Nov, 17 2010 @ 02:34 PM
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I agree.
The US should never apologize, for obvious reasons.

An apology is much like a burp and a belch, it can be taken totally different from culture to culture.
In some countries belching in public could be consisered extremely offensive, while in others it might be consisered to be a huge compliment.

Similar for an apology.
The countries that don't consider an apology to be a sincere act of remorse will instead see it as a huge sign of weakness.





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