posted on Nov, 17 2010 @ 08:30 PM
I guess by the logic of some of the posts to this 'that we will never forget of forgive', Americans better watch out for Africa then for its
plundering of its people for slaves?
Or I guess of an internal revolt of unforgiving descendents of former slaves?
Perhaps 'we' in Australia who NEVER NEVER had slaves (sure we had convict chain gangs, * gave our original peoples a very rough deal) but we never
went so far as to enshrine in any legal government document that a man can 'own' another man) should now all re-evaluate our opinions of ALL
Americans and forever and never forgive or forget that even your so called great founding fathers were slave owners???
Don't you know you win more friends with honey?
Be patient, give them time, The Brits placed a naval blockade on the African slave ports to'discourage the slave trade, but didn't head over to
start bombarding American salve entry ports...
And given time, you saw the 'light', worked out what those words ALL MEN ARE CREATED EQUAL meant in your founding document...
And don't be so high and mighty and self righteous that predjudice ended with the Civil War.... But then I guess you really did realise 'Something
was blowing in the wind" as Martin Luther King was wandering about the country and your military in Vietnam need negro/ African Americans soldiers to
fill out the depleting ranks of good old boy US warrior stock. And some of you more enlightened thinkers pondered what would happen if returning
African Amercian soldiers with dead eye combat glaze were coming home to be treated like dirt.
Give them time, give them time what was China before Mao was able to even organise it as a single state? a hotch pot mix of warring fuedal warlords
treating the peasantry like dirt.
he united them, gave them a national identity.
Are you people so ignorant of even your recent history that the Soviets and Chicoms were going at it hammer and tongs in border skirmishes... and had
nukes pointing at each other.
You hear the word communism, and you see red, communism was just a tool to unite China as nothing else was available both Mao and Chiang Kai Chek
attended the same military academy (Wu Poa military academy) taught by Sun Yat Sen, they then ran off we differing philiosphies on how to unite China
and went for each others throats like only brother fighting each in anger do.
Give them time to 'emerge', give them time to absorb the greater world, sort through good ideas from bad, find systems for managing a population of
over 1 billion whilst maintaining national hegemony (chinese people internally speak many different languages and identify themselves in many racial
Name one war of aggression started by an involving modern Chinese troops...come on one? show me one country modern crazy chinese communism has
Or shall we compare lists of how many places around the world there are where the United States thought sending in troops, invading another nation
would further its national agenda?
Sure, they came screaming across the border once UN troops crossed the Yalu river from North Korea into China and pushed the entire UN forces back to
the original demarcation line....but did they push any further?
Those were white guys with blue eys flying those MiG's over Korea, not ChiCom pilots
Sure in 1979 Vietnam and China had a bust up on the border, but that all that was, settling down into the new arrangement...The Vietnamese and Chinese
have been having at each other for over a thousand years.
Sure, I agree, they are starting to 'play' now exporting missiles to Iran, supplying arms to Zimbabwe, sniffing around the Sudan... but what do the
"Made in" labels say on most of the gear in Taiwan.
But I dare any American to tell me that their own government hasnt played the war by proxy game of supplying nations with Made in USA weaponry...where
did those Israeli F-15's and F-16's come from?
Heck even here in Australia we have a few 'Made in USA F/A-18's although the majority were liscense manufactured locally.
Its like the distorted history you have been taught about the Cuban missile crisis...that somehow it was some plot to install missiles in your back
door as a challange to your machismo.
Study your history. Kennedy insatlled Titan II's in Turkey right in the former Soviets Union front door with no possible reaction time to respond if
they were launched. No other European NATO state was so insane as to allow US ICBM's to installed on their turf, so the militart industrila complex
picked the weakest and poorest link in NATO.
As soon as the USAF set up the Turkish Titans, the Soviets ordered ICBM's to Cuba...
And don't believe that phony baloney version of history that Kurschev 'blinked first' he did not. He only gave the order to bring the ICBM's home
after Kennedy ordered the Titan II's out of Turkey...
Don'tyou guys know your own history, self examine yourself.
Im mean us Aussies are famous for taking the mickey out of ourselves, I think you guys need to get back to getting those marijuana laws eased again,
and all going and take a few puffs and relax a little inseatd of running around buying into your own military industrial complex crap that you need a
'bogeyman' to continue your massive military programmes whilst denying your own citizens such simple things as access to affordable health, better
eduaction for your children etc etc.
tell you what fellas, us Aussies have stuck by you where others haven't...mateship IS our national creed and WE NEVER let a mate down.
But China is our major trading partner, which we trade with in surplus, Japan next again who we trade in surplus with, our newspapers have been full
over the last couple of years of lots of 'what ifs' if China and the US decide to have a little go at each other, even if it is just maybe a little
naval skirmish around Taiwan just to remind the United States Navy that they are a long way from home now, kicked out of Okinawa, access to the
Phillipines gone and your closest resupply port is now Guam which is not much of a base.
We recently just did a joint naval exercise with China in which 'they' invited us to operate with them and give us a chance to check out their
procedures (but we kept the faith, sent one of our German designed MEKO2000 Anzac Class frigates, and made sure they saw nothing of US origin) except
well known weapons systems like evolved Sea Sparrow and Harpoons.)
Whats your record in this part of the world fellas?
One win (with two atom bombs), one draw, Korea, and one loss Vietnam? perhaps yoiu need to think about your percentages again in a crap shoot...
And no you want to take on the worlds largetst population who are quietly locking down non aggression treaties with its neighbours?
What is it with you guys?
Maybe the aliens have polluted the waters, and maybe you are under the influance of HAARP after all.
And dont take me for an anti american Australian, I have been battling away for you guys to everyone I know as the majority of our population becomes
turned off to you...but then I have to...
My lady is an ex US citizen, now naturalised Australian, and ex USAF and I tell you every single bloody day she has to put up with ignorant
Australians getting in her face blaming her for all the ills caused by and in the name of the United States, but then its ignorant Americans
advocating war with China that give them food and ammunition.
I assure you fellas, kick it off with China, you'te on your own. and expect every single nation armed with nuclear weapons, even the French
retargeting your nation to hold you in 'check' to stop you employing your nuclear option...
And don't think we in Australia won't be held hostage by those same people who will employ their nuclear deterent to keep you from employing yours
on China...we're stuck, we supply most of them with uranium and will have the same gun held to our heads to stay out of it.