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Originally posted by vinay86
Thanks for your post but are you really androgynous, because i thought no one on earth is androgynous now ( Please correct me if i am wrong). Thanks again
Originally posted by Tamahu
Originally posted by Arbitrageur
What about chimpanzees and other primates? Chimps especially since they share so much of our DNA.
They have male and female sexes too right? Were they supposed to be androgynous at one point too?
According to the teachings of the White Lodge(Samael Aun Weor, H.P. Blavatsky, Rudolf Steiner, Manly P. Hall, Dion Fortune, Max Heindel, etc.), it is said that contemporary mainstream scientists do recognize the existence of evolution(although it doesn't necessarily work the way they think it does), however contemporary mainstream scientists ignore that devolution also exists.
The Gnostic teachings explain: Devolution, Involution, Evolution and Revolution.
The Gnostic teachings also affirm that primates devolved from humanoids; and that some animals are of a devolving type, and that some other animals are of an evolving type.
Also, the Seven Root Races are:
Aryan(the current Root Race)
The future Seventh Root Race.
Humans are said to have been androgynous up until about the middle of the Lemurian Root Race, which is when Humans are said to have divided into male and female(which is symbolized by Adam and Eve).
edit on 16-11-2010 by Tamahu because: edited text
But what about increases in chromosome number in animals? Polyploid animals don't exist, do they? Well yes, they do, though apparently not in mammals. It is possible in birds - a picture of a triploid rooster graced the cover of Science many years ago. It was rather sickly, and it is unlikely that viable, fertile tetraploids are possible. Triploid lizards do exist. There are several species of all female whiptails in the American Southwest, at least some of which are triploid. They reproduce by parthenogenesis. Some "Amazon" mollies are also triploid. They apparently arise by alloploidy. They reproduce by parthenogenesis but sperm from males of one of the parent species are necessary to stimulate egg development. I don't know that any tetraploid species of fish have been found but at least a few give evidence of being diploidised decendants of ancient tetraploids.
Notes: 1 - 48 chromosomes:
In his other writings, Master Samael explains that two chromosomes are etheric, corresponding to the vital body, thus modern science remains unaware of their existence and has recognized only forty-six.
Originally posted by Nightchild
I don't believe him.
Don't get me wrong, I do believe much in the possibility that there were and still are androgynous beings as a "natural" gender, but not that they were the original Earthlings, but rather the "Gods"(ET's). I do, however, lean more towards that the "Gods" consisted of (Supposedly) three genders rather then only one; Male, Female and both/neither.
An occult maxim exists that states: “As above, so below.” We can also state: “As below, so above.”
If sexual union of the phallus and the uterus is always necessary in order to engender a physical body, then it is also absolutely logical to state that the sexual act is indispensably necessary in order to engender the Solar Astral Body.
Once in a while within this complicated and difficult labyrinth of pseudo-esotericism and pseudo-occultism, some wandering degenerated infrasexual might appear who will possibly state that the Astral Body can be built without the necessity of the sexual act because we already have the two poles, masculine and feminine.
Those imbecile ignoramuses do not want to comprehend that the time of the Lemurian hermaphrodites has already passed, and that creation without sexual cooperation, without the necessity of the sexual act between man and woman, can only be performed by an authentic hermaphrodite.
The Lemurian hermaphrodites had the phallus and the uterus and also all of the male and female organs totally developed; this is why they could create or reproduce themselves without the necessity of the sexual act. However, all of the pseudo-esoteric and pseudo-occultist people who hate sexual magic have never demonstrated unto us that they have the male and female sexual organs totally developed.
What is as abundant as evil weed in this perverse, corrupted, and doomed Aryan civilization are the false hermaphrodites, meaning, the homosexuals of Lilith, the gays.
Swami X stated the following in one of his lessons: "Unmarried people can unite spiritually within themselves the natural creative force of the soul by learning the correct method of Meditation and its application to the physical life. Such people do not have to pass through the material experience of matrimony. They can learn to marry their feminine physical impulse with the masculine impulse of their internal soul."
If our beloved Gnostic disciples reflect on these words of Swami X, they will reach the conclusion that they are manifestly absurd. This idea of marrying the feminine physical impulse with the masculine impulse of the Internal Soul is one hundred percent false. This type of utopian marriage is impossible because the human being has not yet incarnated the Soul. With whom then is he going to marry his feminine physical impulse?
The intellectual animal still does not have a Soul. Whosoever wishes to incarnate Soul, whosoever yearns to be a human with Soul, must have the Astral, Mental and Causal Bodies. The human being of this day and age still does not have these Internal Vehicles. The Astral spectre, the Mental spectre, and the Causal spectre are only spectres. The majority of Occultists believe that these internal spectres are the true vehicles; nonetheless, they are very mistaken. We need to be born in the superior worlds. This subject matter about being born is a sexual problem.
No human being is born of theory. Not even a simple microbe can be born of theories. No one is born through the nostrils nor through the mouth. Every living being is born of sex. "As above, so below." If the human being is born of sex here in this physical world, it is logical that above, in the Internal Worlds, the process is analogous. The Law is the Law and the Law is fulfilled.
The Christ Astral is born as the body of flesh and bone is born. This is sexual. Only with Sexual Magic between husband and wife can one give birth to that marvelous body. We can say the same of the Mental and Causal. We need to engender those internal bodies and that is only possible with sexual contact because, as above so below and, as below so above. No celibate person can marry his feminine physical impulse with the masculine of his Internal Soul, because not a single celibate person can incarnate his Soul. To incarnate the Soul we must engender the internal bodies, and only through the sexual union of man and woman can they be engendered. No single man nor any single woman can engender or conceive. The two poles are necessary to create. This is what life is.
It is necessary to engender the internal vehicles. It is necessary to be born in the superior worlds. Celibacy is an absolutely false path. We need the Perfect Matrimony.
Originally posted by Nightchild
Originally posted by vinay86
Now, there are unfortunately alot of people nowadays just pretending to be androgyne for "Coolness", and those are not Intergenders, as the term only applyes for those truly feeling themselves to stand beyond or between genders.
Well I don't know what part of town your from but its not "cool" where I'm from, not something you for example would say down your local pub