Hi Gaussq, and thanks for responding.
Originally posted by Gaussq
As a physicist I have come to learn that nature is always fair to everyone and the laws of the universe must be very simple and logical or else there
could be no universe.
Sorry about being wordy.. it's a struggle to simplify concepts into terminology that doesn't lose intent and meaning for various people.
Yes it is simple, far simpler than we expect. Although it gets pretty weird at levels of awareness past oversoul.
Not sure about it being Logical though, as that may well be a Human trait.. much of what I've experienced outside the Box doesn't follow a Logical
pattern.. although at lower levels of awareness it's not so difficult.
Originally posted by Gaussq
As I see it, if you take up a gun and shoot some innocent people walking down the street, there is bound to be reasons for that. Surely, you may be
possessed by a demon or have some other external influence to your mind. Still, you have a choice to withstand the temptation and stay peaceful. And
human feelings count for nothing as I see it. Are you controlled by wild feelings or can you control them yourself? If a feeling comes up that you
need to kill someone, do you follow that feeling? I would say you are a very bad person and are slated for destruction.
Yes, everything happens for a reason. And the reason has multiple levels to it.. the mundane levels that we humans operate at and levels beyond, as
you know. And I wholeheartedly agree with the Choice for our actions always being Ours to make in every moment. Some choose less effective actions
than another person might in the moment. To me, becoming Master of Ourself is one step in the direction to Awakening.
And yes there are times when external influences can lead a person to do things they might not normally do. At times these external influences can
easily be non-physical forms of awareness using the person for their own purposes... I wouldn't call them Demons though.. not in the traditional
sense of the word.
Originally posted by Gaussq
When you say those other souls " chose" to be a part of it I do not agree. That action is the killer´s choice and you destroy the planned lives of
those other human beings and will induce enormous karma on your main primordial soul. Actually the higher being that planned the life of the one you
killed will be furious with you. You destroyed his plan.
I do understand your point here, as it's a fairly normal perception for many people to have.
But I do not subscribe to the Belief that Souls are powerless, imperfect or can be harmed in any way by the actions of their miniscule human vehicles.
I do not subscribe to the Belief in higher powers because my experiences show that it is we who are those very same higher powers.. only we have
forgotten that about ourselves while existing in the mundane human form.
I also see that nothing can occur on this earth without the full support of the Universe/God/George/Martha.. insert your own words here. If this was
not so then nothing would happen at all.. we are not separate from the whole and do not operate independantly from it.
Because of this each Soul employs co-creating contracts.. for a better term to use... and thus all actions between humans is something included in
these contracts for the experience it can offer in our Itinerary for Life.
And, at that level of Awareness we understand Duality does not exist, so we can only be accepting that all experience is Valid Experience for a Soul
no matter what World of Experience we chose to descend into.
Originally posted by Gaussq
Ever imagined that catastrophes occur to eliminate karma for people? And yes, Gods allow them to happen if needed. Good people will never be botherred
by catastrophes.
Interesting perception mate, thank you for offering it here. While I do not subscribe to the traditional view of Karma being a force for bringing only
good or bad outcomes as just desserts, I can understand how people think it must be so.
You know, I've seen many good people suffering. Many who have been involved in catastrophies too. So I cannot commit to a Belief that only the bad
people have bad experiences or bad Karma or are the only ones involved in catastrophies. Many innocents are slaughtered every day in this world.
Originally posted by Gaussq
Now you are thinking external reasons for an effect. The underlying cause of disease is karma. In a higher dimension you will see the karma as a black
disgusting substance spread out in your body in layers depending how much you have of it. If you meet a person with third eye open at flesh level he
can tell you exactly where your karma is concentrated. That is where diseases will occur. Bacteria, virus etc are only a manifestation of karma in our
lower dimension.
Yes, that's why I said Simplistic in the lead sentence. I was too tired to delve further at the time.
Yes, I have seen the "Dross" on many levels and find it not appealing at all. But again I cannot subscribe to the Belief that the cause is Karma, in
the
Traditional sense. I do see most people invite illness via their actions, and particularly via their Beliefs. For instance, those who
believe themselves to be unworthy create an opening for illness just as effectively as the drunkard or drug-addled does.
I think Karma is being given far too much Power in being used as scapegoat/reasoning for everything. It's a mechanical thing.. I smoke cigarettes so
I am allowing myself to die from one of the forms of cancer caused by this action of poisoning myself.. that is not Karma.. that is a logical and
natural flow from Instigating action to Fruition... a very mechanical process with no value-based judgements inherent within it.
Originally posted by Gaussq
Imagine that higher dimensions rule us and demons and these higher beings are benevolent. Can they not use demons to eliminate karma for mankind and
start some world wars etc? Why did Gods allow guns to be invented? To make people eliminate karma by suffering.
Sorry, I cannot agree with the Belief in God/Gods or us being Ruled by anything.. that is just too Limited a Perception, too typically human-like in
concept, given that we are Indoctrinated into Believing we are Insignificant and Bad... and in desperate need of Redemption by some higher power. It
is part of the Control Mechanism in play here.
All Experience is Valid. We did not need to be Allowed, we simply chose it as part of the options for Experience in this world of experience.
Suffering is a Belief, a state of mind that produces self-evident results. Not because of Karma, but simply because we Believe it has to be that way.
Beliefs create the Reality we Experience. Look at poor third world children living in poverty and filth.. they smile, they laugh, they play like any
kid in richer nations.. and maybe until someone comes along and Indoctrinates them into Believing they are Suffering.. and so they then experience the
same conditions from before as Suffering.
When it is all you know from birth it is normal, hence not seen as suffering until you are given something to compare it to.
Originally posted by Gaussq
......... In any case if you suffer alot now, in your next life you will become rich or powerful. If you are a cultivator and become a good person
while suffering you can go to heaven(there are infinitely many levels so depending on your xinxing level you can go to that heavenly level).
Ahh, now that sounds very much like a Hindu-based Belief doesn't it? We do not incarnate from poor to wealthy, from lowest to highest until we reach
Enlightenment and "earn the ticket Home". That is man's concept created as a control mechanism in the same way that Christianity uses Hell to scare
people into Following.
From my experience.... some of which will sound very weird okay...
Having "relived" many lives out of the multiple thousands I've had on this world so far, I can tell you that each Life is taken on it's own
"merit", and the next planning phase is done to explore more experience offerings. Yes at times we continue a theme through some lives in order to
play out particular roles for ourselves and the other souls we are co-creating with.
In the most basic way I offer... one "experience/life" as a local non-physical deity in ancient England, the next as a Slave under severe duress in
South America, the next as Tribe's Shaman and Protector in a Pict community, the next as a Runner/Messenger in the latter stages of the Mayan
culture, the next as a well to do Egyptian who was murdered, the next as a "mad-man" in the forests, the next as a Druid in service to a King, the
next as a disgusting and unclean thing in Europe, the next as a Native-american at the time of the last great summer camp, the next as a simple monk
in Tibet shot in the stomach by a very young Chinese Soldier in 1959, the next.. came back straight away to this one now.
This illustrates that it is the soul that chooses each incarnation for it's own reasons, and that lives are not Linear from lowest to highest based
on one's Karma Merit or lack of.... it just doesn't work that way my friend no matter what the Sages of Old, any New-Age book, and Belief-System may
say about it.
Beliefs are always the One Thing that Limits us, and it is now time to move beyond all Beliefs so that we may see Clearly what is what and what is
not.
Thank you for the Falun quote.
One of the things I do in my work is take the lost "dead" across into the Light in order for them to Awaken properly from the Dream of Life. This is
at the level of Awareness called Focus 27 by Monroe, and is also known by some as the area of the Akasha.. akashic record/library.. it is where those
who enter the Tunnel of Light go. This is at the topmost level of the limited Astral layers.. and at the bugffer-zone.. for want of a better set of
words... between the Astral and what I call Soul Awareness levels.
At the moment they arrive in this Heavenly place, they begin to shine from the inside. As this occurs all the FACADE.. all the things of man.. all the
Beliefs, all the human desires, all the concepts, thoughts, ideas and Attachments simply begin to fall away.. as they pale into insignificance and one
re-awakens out of the dream.
It is beautiful to watch, awe-inspiring to say the least.
I found this place on my own in 1977 when I was 17 while experimenting further afield than the lower astral we humans normally journey in when the
body sleeps. The only reason it was possible for me to find it is because I have never been Limited by having attachment to Belief-Systems of any
kind... I have always followed my own inner voice and direction.. as I came to understand that the Soul knows exactly what is going on even if we
little portions of it do not while stuck in this mundane experience of being a Human Being.
Apart from all the above my friend, I cannot think of another thing to share with you at this point. And so I thank you for the time and effort you
spend with me in this conversation.
Be Well.
I know that what I minister is 100% Truth - but you must take it from there. Do your research and use
your ability to reason that we were all gifted with. Go to Yahweh in prayer for guidance via His Holy Spirit and let your heart be your guide. That's
the only advise I can offer.
