Originally posted by Death_Kron
War is war and unfortunately it will always have innocent civilians but I really don't understand those on here who believe we are invading a country and purposefully killing innocent people.

We can always say that. Sure it sounds plausibly deniable. However, purposeful is really not something that should be attributed to it because really it amount to whatever is between "them", "they", "TPTB", "the moneyed interests", etc. and what they seek, civilians, fighters or however they would perchance be labeled. They're purposefully killing someone, whomever it may be, that is in the way. So, no, they're not purposefully killing civilians, just pushing aside some inconvenient biological matter.

Well according to the US, it's a war...

... and it takes two for a war,

So why not?

Plus I reckon the majority of people who are "At war" with the soldiers in Afghanistan, are only fighting because they believe they are being invaded for no reason. And to me lately, that's what it looks like. So I think they're fighting for their country as much as anyone else....

Well, they have the power to give themselves the right too. But all in all, is killing someone in anyway right? Because it goes completely against the concept of having rights.

I don't think the question is formulated correctly but I'm going to interpret it as "do the Afghans have the right to fight the American soldiers?"

People who are quickly to label others and their opinions of believing Afghans have the right to fight the Americans as "bashing America" not only, I think, are acting on emotional and blind nationalistic impulses but show a lack of perspective. Obviously no one wants their fellow citizens to die but it's important that, first and foremost, we put things in perspective.

Imagine if a group of Americans, or not even necessarily American citizens but living in America, perpetrated a terrorist attack against China. How would you feel if China occupied the United States as a result of that? What about if China sent drones over Manhattan and killed one criminal with a missile strike, along with 7 civilians, because "well, innocent people die during wars"? Would you join the resistance? Would you fight the Chinese occupation?

Conspiracies aside, military action in Afghanistan was necessary -- we were told -- to fight, capture and eliminate the people who orchestrated 9/11. The United States, and allied forces, have effectively occupied a country to fight a minority of the population that engaged in criminal behavior. The military reaction to the problem was and is disproportionate, and probably unlawful.

Under international law the inhabitants of an occupied country or territory have the right to organize a resistance and fight the occupying forces. Have the resistance movements followed the rules of armed conflict? Probably not, but there's plenty more justification for the type of armed resistance the Afghans are engaged in than for what the United States has done -- preemptive war, use of mercenaries to participate in the hostilities, torture, drone attacks by civilian personnel (CIA), just to name a few.

They can get up one day and join the insurgency if they like, it doesn’t make it a clever thing to do.

They have as much of a "right" (which is both a hilariously and disgustingly inaccurate word to use, by the way) to kill us, as we do them.

We are a hostile force, occupying their country. Whether we are doing more harm than good is a part of a HUGE debate, but the fact of the matter is, there are those in that country that do not want us there, and will fight back to remove us.

After all that we've done to them, they'd be fools not to defend themselves anyways..