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CMS detector is reported to have seen "new and interesting effects". These effects concern the particular paths taken by the debris particles as they move away from the impacts. These angular correlations emerged in the statistical study of particle movements in billions of collisions. "In some sense, it's like the particles talk to each other and they decide which way to go," explained CMS Spokesperson Guido Tonelli.
S&F!!!! for that explanation. You said it so well. I have said the exact same thing for so long now. I need to find some quotes to add to what you said.
When a collision occurs the two particles (twisted space-time) collide unravelling the braids to create other configurations of space-time braiding, some stable, some not so stable.
The energy produced in the collision is literally space-time retuning to base state (quantum foam) and as such the surface area of space-time increases at that point... we detect this as energy.
The point is that everything we see is the result of one thing, just a very complex system of energetic fluctuations, but at some point the system is only the warping and fluxing of one thing, nothingness, space. If you warp space you get energy. I believe if you stretch space, pulling from two points, a string of space between the two points will contain potential energy. I believe these are the building blocks of everything, tie the space into a knot so that it can't neutralize and you have a basic “particle”, maybe a quark, maybe something much smaller.
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When scientists dig deep enough they will literally find nothing, they will rip apart some semi-existent particles and be left with nothing as the resulting energy rapidly decays.
Originally posted by CHA0S
The point is that everything we see is the result of one thing, just a very complex system of energetic fluctuations, but at some point the system is only the warping and fluxing of one thing, nothingness, space. If you warp space you get energy. I believe if you stretch space, pulling from two points, a string of space between the two points will contain potential energy. I believe these are the building blocks of everything, tie the space into a knot so that it can't neutralize and you have a basic “particle”, maybe a quark, maybe something much smaller.
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When scientists dig deep enough they will literally find nothing, they will rip apart some semi-existent particles and be left with nothing as the resulting energy rapidly decays.
Same here, I think you're the first person I've actually met who can visualize this concept in the same way as me. BTW, do you know if this theory has been mentioned by any mainstream scientists? I'm just wondering, because I honestly came up with this on my own years ago. I just know some guy will take all the credit when this theory starts to get some mainstream consideration (which I know it will), I've had it happen to me before.
I'm happy to have met someone else that can clearly visualise within their minds eye what reality actually is.
EXACTLY! Would you agree with this statement:
This process also makes it very easy to explained and demystify the so called 'spooky action at a distance" also known as quantum entanglement. You see because all braids are connected at their base, it is easy to see that distance is irrelevant when you have two particles (braids) sharing a twist in their braid. When one is observed it's wave function collapses and its values are set, meaning that the other particle in the pair gets altered instantaneously.
Originally posted by CHA0S
If one particle changes instantly in accordance with the other, you would assume an instant transfer of information is taking place. However, lets assume for a second they are connected by some unseen force. If you tug on one, and the other will move instantly wont it? It's similar to electricity I think. When you flick on your light switch, your light will turn on instantly...because it doesn't take until one electron from the light switch reaches the light bulb; the electrical current actually pushes all the electrons in the wire, much like a plumbing system. If you have a hose full of water, and you turn on the tap, you don't need to wait until water from the tap reaches the end of the hose do you, because there is already water in the hose, so it might seem like when you turned the tap from a few meters away, you caused an instant transfer of information, because the water came out the other end instantly, but that obviously isn't the case.
Indeed.
It's poetic isn't it?
I never really did think it existed, I just have a gut feeling about it.
Of course the higgs doesn't exist, it is just a clever piece of math created to prop up a blurry picture of reality called the standard model.
Once again, great minds think a like. I could not agree more.
Actually it's almost crazy since we have had the concept that matter and energy are interchangeable for such a long time it beggars belief that we are still harping on about fundamental particles.
Well said.
Simply put matter is not contained within a space-time substrate, matter is Space-time.
Originally posted by buddhasystem
If I see that guy Guido next time I go to CERN, I'll probably talk to him and try to explain that he needs to choose words for his explanation to laymen way, way better. Correlations are just that, correlations, and there is no need to talk about interdimensional planck bullcr@p. As I said in a different thread, what is observed is qualitatively similar to RHIC results. Protons have structure. Deal with is, without resorting to the occult.
The Planck length is the scale at which classical ideas about gravity and space-time cease to be valid, and quantum effects dominate. This is the ‘quantum of length’, the smallest measurement of length with any meaning. And roughly equal to 1.6 x 10-35 m or about 10-20 times the size of a proton.
In physics, the Planck length, denoted ℓP, is a unit of length, equal to 1.616252(81)×10−35 meters. It is a base unit in the system of Planck units. The Planck length can be defined from three fundamental physical constants: the speed of light in a vacuum, Planck's constant, and the gravitational constant.
Originally posted by Korg Trinity
The pretender appears... You have already shot yourself in the foot... If you were who you claim to be then you could not deny Planck....
No, that gives you a conditioned mainstream view of the topic. You can't look outside the box because you're working off faulty preconceptions and creating things which don't exist to fit those failing theories. Instead of listening to what the evidence is telling you, you only accept that which validates out dated physics. And of course protons have structure, as far as I can see, no one has said they don't.
I don't pretend I understand quantum gravity but sure as hell I've had more practice in the field of physics than you, and that gives me a better view of the topic -- which you patently failed to grasp.
Originally posted by buddhasystem
Originally posted by Korg Trinity
The pretender appears... You have already shot yourself in the foot... If you were who you claim to be then you could not deny Planck....
A wannabe calls me a pretender, that's rich. They found a correlation in hadron production and you just use it to unload the usual bunch of your pseudo-science cr@p on unsuspecting public.
I don't pretend I understand quantum gravity but sure as hell I've had more practice in the field of physics than you, and that gives me a better view of the topic -- which you patently failed to grasp.
If matter is indeed just made of space-time twisted up then there is no real separation between anything, as everything is connected at its base, this explains entanglement
Originally posted by CynicalM
Is anyone else like me and worries about things our scientists are messing with?
They dont know what will happen or what they may create or open...
I know they say the risks are minute but we all know Murphy's law.
I find that comment quite rude, and from my perspective, "blatantly" idiotic. You've done nothing but come in here and state how dumb it all is without bringing anything else to the table. You are at the pinnacle of ignorance. An exert from my profile:
I find this patently idiotic and not worthy of comment.
Stuff I Don't Like
Ignorance and materialism. Skeptics that simply spout absurd opinions, trying to debunk everything, providing little to no facts to support their argument, and totally ignoring the scientific method all together.
Those who instantly resort to personal attacks and other forms of unconstructive criticism when faced with something mysterious and inexplicable in nature
Originally posted by CHA0S
EDIT: I stand corrected, I just found that "patently" is a word and used properly in this case. That does not moot my point however.