Originally posted by zorgon
Oh but it DOES work that way..
Zorgon, as a fan of your work on ATS, I take no pleasure in saying- "no...it does not".
Look at religion for the past 2000 years..
Religion doesn't work with facts...heck, most of it is deadly afraid of such things as facts or proof.
Look at where Sitchin has taken us...
Another fraud and snake oil's salesman...He is as allergic to facts as overly religious types are.
Eye witnesses don't count?
Of course they do...but not as factual proof of anything.
I have tried to be very polite here since I am enjoying the conversation, so please do not take this as a hostile attack.
I am laying down the most obvious fact we should all admit to.
Nobody here has any proof of aliens visiting earth. Even if you saw a strange glowing craft land in your yard and then take off again, you still have
no factual proof the craft was alien.
I've mentioned a few times in some of these UFO threads what my mother and another witness saw in the early 60s, and also have heard the detailed
stories of many folks in my town who also saw unexplainable things in the sky around those handful of years...I have no doubt in my mind they saw
something...my mother even saw it close up (a guessed distance of 150 feet away)...but a logical mind MUST admit that even that story (even if it was
filmed!) still proves nothing.
At best...it would prove someone saw something...
And to the OP-
I'm sorry if you think I cherry picked your post for something to slam...I did not. I was making reference to what I assume the bare bones of your
"you speculating and saying a theory of your own is a fact".
I'm sorry...you can't do that and not be called out on it.
Like how you say Stargate is based on some UFO facts being hidden from us. Did you know the writers of that show are self admitted "huge fans" of
conspiracy and UFO stories? Are you aware there has been countless Stargate-ish stories in written fiction dating as back to the early 50s?
People need to stop seeing reused stories/plots as something more "serious" then what it actually is- "marketing".
Am I saying that there is no chance of it being a show based on secrets the writers and producers know by talking to insiders of secret government
agencies? No...I can't say I know "anything like that" for a fact either way.
I am very careful with what I say is fact or not. It is the reason you won't see me creating threads where I tell 6.8 billion humans on earth that
"aliens are coming 100% factually for real".
I think ATS would benefit from more people understanding the difference between "guessing and imagining" verses "real proof or fact".
"you do not know anything about aliens or visitors to earth".
Nor do any of you have real factual proof or insight to the real truth behind the phenomena of UFOs.
Heck, even calling UFOs anything but "unidentified" is making a foolish jump in logic.
The second you call a UFO an alien craft, you have set your "good word" adrift in a sea of speculation and guess work.
I support those of you looking for REAL TRUTH...and heck, I TRUST my mother's word on what she saw...but we should all be more careful with what we
tell our peers is fact or not...that is just good practice and respectful to the mission of denying ignorance together.
Just my thoughts.