Proof of The Prophet Muhammad in the Bible

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posted on Sep, 21 2010 @ 06:34 AM
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Originally posted by mamabeth
reply to post by gravitational
 


To answer your question...
FALSE


I say TRUE.

I mean, you saying men were able to put GOD on a cross and crucify him. Wow. It's like saying I made a cup of tea, and the tea through me out of the _ What are the chances of that happening?




posted on Sep, 21 2010 @ 06:38 AM
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reply to post by skajkingdom
 


When you eventually realize that Mama is right,
it will be too late.
The muslim prophet is not mentioned in the old
testament.My stepson studied greek and hebrew
in college.I listen to a Messianic rabbi about twice
a week.
There isn't anything you can post that will ever make
me change my mind!I am steadfast in my beliefs and
am prepared to answer for them.
He lives,He lives,Christ Jesus lives today.
Yeshua Ha Mashiach



posted on Sep, 21 2010 @ 06:42 AM
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Originally posted by FamiliarBoyOfGoodFortune

Originally posted by mamabeth
reply to post by gravitational
 


To answer your question...
FALSE


I say TRUE.

I mean, you saying men were able to put GOD on a cross and crucify him. Wow. It's like saying I made a cup of tea, and the tea through me out of the _ What are the chances of that happening?


You can try to discuss it with them, but hardly anyone will ponder.

Anyway:

If they killed God, who was running the Universe?

The favorite question to christian apologetes: They then say "The Father".
So, there are indeed at least 2 distinct beings here: God the Father, and God the Son. They then say "No, Father, Son and Holy Spirit are 1 Being, but 3 persons".
But, if Jesus was God incarnated, and DIED, and if these 3 are ONE BEING, then ALL 3 OF THEM DIED!

So, again, WHO WAS RUNNING THE UNIVERSE when God died?



posted on Sep, 21 2010 @ 06:43 AM
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Mohammad is in the Bible like
Mickey Mouse is a Satanist !!!

Is Jesus mentioned in the Koran????



posted on Sep, 21 2010 @ 06:43 AM
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reply to post by FamiliarBoyOfGoodFortune
 


Jesus/Yeshua could have come off that cross at any time.
Jesus paid our sin debt to God/Jehovah by shedding His
precious blood.Because mankind had a debt we couldn't pay.
Jesus/Yeshua the Lamb of God.



posted on Sep, 21 2010 @ 06:49 AM
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Originally posted by mamabeth
reply to post by FamiliarBoyOfGoodFortune
 


Jesus/Yeshua could have come off that cross at any time.
Jesus paid our sin debt to God/Jehovah by shedding His
precious blood.Because mankind had a debt we couldn't pay.
Jesus/Yeshua the Lamb of God.


You just spout stuff like this repeatedly.

Use your brains instead. For once.

Answer this:



If they killed God, who was running the Universe?

The favorite question to christian apologetes: They then say "The Father".
So, there are indeed at least 2 distinct beings here: God the Father, and God the Son.
They then say "No, Father, Son and Holy Spirit are 1 Being, but 3 persons".
But, if Jesus was God incarnated, and DIED, and if these 3 are ONE BEING, then ALL 3 OF THEM DIED!

So, again, WHO WAS RUNNING THE UNIVERSE when God died?



posted on Sep, 21 2010 @ 06:52 AM
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When you sleep who is keeping your heart beating? Who is keeping you breathing?

One aspect of a complex life can be muted while others continue.



posted on Sep, 21 2010 @ 06:56 AM
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Originally posted by InvisibleAlbatross
reply to post by Alxandro
 


Actually A.D. is no longer commonly used. Historians now use C.E., "Common Era" and B.C.E., "Before Common Era."


That's actually only partially true.

Only the Christ-hating historians use those designations.



posted on Sep, 21 2010 @ 06:57 AM
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Originally posted by boondock-saint


Is Jesus mentioned in the Koran????


Yes.

You don't know this?



posted on Sep, 21 2010 @ 06:57 AM
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reply to post by skajkingdom
 


God is eternal and He is always in control
of everything.Flesh dies,the spirit lives on!



posted on Sep, 21 2010 @ 06:58 AM
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Originally posted by boondock-saint
Mohammad is in the Bible like
Mickey Mouse is a Satanist !!!

Is Jesus mentioned in the Koran????


Do keep up, that was answered earlier in the thread:

QURAN [2:136] Say ye: "We believe in Allah, and the revelation given to us, and to Abraham, Isma'il, Isaac, Jacob, and the Tribes, and that given to Moses and Jesus, and that given to (all) prophets from their Lord: We make no difference between one and another of them: And we bow to Allah (in Islam)."



posted on Sep, 21 2010 @ 07:02 AM
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I wouldn't even dignify the question...

For one it's based on straw man arguments. Secondly, the poster has no functioning understanding of the Trinity whatsoever.

It'd be like trying to explain physics to a cave man.



posted on Sep, 21 2010 @ 07:05 AM
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Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by mamabeth
 


I wouldn't even dignify the question...

For one it's based on straw man arguments. Secondly, the poster has no functioning understanding of the Trinity whatsoever.

It'd be like trying to explain physics to a cave man.



Aha.

Pray tell: What is Trinity then?
Explain it to the cave man.

Do answer my question above using Trinity as an argument.


Thank you.



posted on Sep, 21 2010 @ 07:08 AM
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Originally posted by Romantic_Rebel
reply to post by Thepreye
 


Eh? Christians trying to promote their dominance over innocent people.
lol:p


I think you could easily replace the word "Christians" in your sentance with "Muslims" as well. Yeah, I know in the past the Christian/Catholic sects had their time of convert or die but they also began to see the error of their ways and evolved. If Muslims and Islam has been around for nearly the same amount of time, why havent they done the same? Oh, I guess the fact that there is no room for change and it is there way or no way at all is why.



posted on Sep, 21 2010 @ 07:12 AM
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Originally posted by mamabeth
reply to post by skajkingdom
 

Flesh dies,the spirit lives on!


So, God became flesh. Flesh died. But spirit lived.

OK.

Let me just get back to that one more time:

God BECAME flesh.
He changed his nature.


Then, what about this:



I am the LORD, and I do not change.
-Malachi, 3:6



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posted on Sep, 21 2010 @ 07:28 AM
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King James Version...Malachi 3:6
For I am the Lord,I change not;therefore ye sons
of Jacob are not consumed.
Webster's dictionary...
Nature:character,behavior,disposition,temperament.
(archaic)affectionate or kindly feeling.



posted on Sep, 21 2010 @ 07:30 AM
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I'm not going to answer your question, it's based on a presupposition and straw man arguments.

And the Trinity is explained as God exists in 3 persons, father, Son, and Holy Spirit. That's his nature. We were created in His image, with body, soul, and spirit.

Do you believe your soul and spirit move along when you die?



posted on Sep, 21 2010 @ 07:49 AM
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Originally posted by JonInMichigan

Originally posted by InvisibleAlbatross
reply to post by Alxandro
 


Actually A.D. is no longer commonly used. Historians now use C.E., "Common Era" and B.C.E., "Before Common Era."


I had to debate whether or not to use CE or AD in my post. I used AD in hoping someone astute would point it out. I didn't think anyone would. Good job! I like your way of thinking. Now send Perez over here to clean up this spilled wine.


edit on 20-9-2010 by JonInMichigan because: typos




Who cares if people switched the designation from "A.D." to "C.E." -- C.E. is still based upon A.D.

This argument is like saying that the sky isn't blue, it's now "gumperfrak", even though "gumperfrak" was made up to suit the needs of the anti-blue society. So the sky is "gumperfrak" you uneducated fool.



Who cares if a word in the hebrew bible can be translated to muhammad? Muhammad could simply be translated to mean "praised" or "one who is praised". I'm sure that the muhammad of the Bible is more likely than not a verb and not a name, and even if it is, the muhammad of the Bible is certainly not the founder of Islam.



posted on Sep, 21 2010 @ 07:50 AM
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The called the prophet was born in 570 AD, and I don't believe he was the first and only one name Mohammad



posted on Sep, 21 2010 @ 08:01 AM
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Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by skajkingdom
 



Do you believe your soul and spirit move along when you die?



Yes, I do.
But my spirit is a CREATION of God.
God is not a man. You cannot compare the Creation with the Creator.
3 Persons in one being, means it is ONE being, only when one of these persons does not become something else (human).

If one of those becomes human, and has no powers (e.g. does not know when is the Last Hour), then he is a distinct being, since, if he still was one being with Father and Holy Spirit, he would know that.

If you say the "human part" of Jesus did not know the Last Hour, but the "God part" did, then you are admitting that the Jesus that walked around in Palestine 2000 years ago, was a HUMAN and not GOD.

If you still say that Jesus is God, then you are admitting that GOD CHANGED.
And according to Malachy, GOD DOES NOT CHANGE.

And if you say that he was God AND Human at the same time, then again you have the problem of why didnt he know about the Last Hour.

You see, Paulianism, has created a huge problem here. They turned the pure monotheism of the Old Testament into a conundrum, where one cannot find the solution anymore, evades logic, and is confusing.

From the pure belief of Jesus "Hear oh Israel, the Lord, our God, is ONE" they created at first one additional God (Jesus) then another (Holy Spirit), all based on pagan trinitarian beliefs.
But since Paul tried to convert everyone, he had to "melt" everything together, from polytheist pagan beliefs to monotheistic jewish beliefs.
And, cunning as he was, he did not hesitate to LIE and DECEIVE people, just to convert them.



To the Jews I became like a Jew, to win the Jews. To those under the law I became like one under the law (though I myself am not under the law), so as to win those under the law.
To those not having the law I became like one not having the law (though I am not free from God's law but am under Christ's law), so as to win those not having the law.
To the weak I became weak, to win the weak. I have become all things to all men so that by all possible means I might save some.
- Paul, in 1 Corinthians, 9:20-22


This is the man you are following. A pretender. A liar. A deceiver.





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