Why are AE911Truth & Wikipedia Censoring Information about Dr. Judy Wood?, page 6
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reply posted on 20-9-2010 @ 02:56 AM by joeymooreyogi
"If you want something talked about, ask a man. If you want something done, ask a woman."

The reason for the vociferous discrediting of Dr. Judy Wood is sadly far more simple and apparent than her being some complex disinfo plant, or your own comforting nutcase. How easy it is to dismiss her so disrespectfully. However, it is very plain that yet another "good ol' boys club" has egg on their faces, and Dr. Wood has the goods. She is so un-slick and unglamorous that these popular guys ranting their very comforting positions are running scared by her very threatening non-threat, which is based on truth-reality. No explosives, guys. No thermite. No molten high heat. No demolition. Dr. Wood knocks 'em all down, and the boys club fails to really take the time for reality: They'd rather win the pageant! But Dr. Wood knows truth is no popularity contest.

"WHERE did the Towers go?" It's just that simple. Thanks to Dr. Judy Wood! YUP, there is true beauty in simplicity, and Dr. Wood's objectivity is staggering--in her authenticity, integrity, and attractive reason. No outerspace rays or beams here, dears. (Why must you think directed energy is a ray, or a beam? Are you stumbling over the word "directed"?) Dr. Wood has never made such claims when she describes the possibility of energy fields & interference, gentlemen. There is a difference.

When you allow the evidence to speak to you, when you take the time to contemplate and really look for yourself, you can rediscover what you subconsciously asked yourself on that dreadful day but couldn't clearly articulate, until Dr. Wood came along: "Where did the Towers go? Shouldn't that pile be much bigger?"

It took a woman.

Cheers!
joeymooreyogi
Ex Boston-based United Airlines flight attendant,
who worked out of Logan one hour prior to Flt 175 on 9/11.


reply posted on 20-9-2010 @ 05:24 AM by splint
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Ill be looking at all of this evidence tomorrow. It all seems possible. However, some phrases and words caught my eye.


"fantasy" implying that it shouldn't even be looked at
"no physical basis "

"People call her wacky" Trying to imply that -everyone- says this , so it must be true

"away with the fairies. "

"disinfo agent"

"nobody is interested or cares" Again, saying that -everyone- agrees that she is wrong. So -you- should too.

"spamming." completely misguiding the thread

"fake "Dr." Again, implying she is fake and should be ignored. Even though there is proof she is not.

"is she suffering from a mental disease" Implying that she should NOT be trusted in anything she says.

"She is a quack" See above

"There's no physical mechanism to do it" HOW DO YOU KNOW THIS?

"no way to test for such ludicrous technology" Calling it 'ludicrous' implying its completely impossible. No way to test? It can be tested underground, like everything else is.

"made-up fairytale BS" See above

"Game over." Trying to end the topic and discussion

"Lab samples" You know VERY WELL that she cant get any at this point.

"fake space beam weapons" Using the word 'fake' even though there are many theories on this website about them.
"All this DEW garbage"
"DEW fantasy "
"debunked disinformation"
"government plant."
"fake engineering degree"
"This woman is a disgrace"
"the fool that she is. "
"trying to push disinfo"
"has since moved on" Trying to get people to 'move on' and forget about her.

This is pretty much what the media is doing to ANY 9/11 truther. These guys are doing it right here in this very thread. Calling her a crack job, etc.


reply posted on 20-9-2010 @ 07:00 AM by dragnet53
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LOL

I love your registered date 9-19-10.

So who is your 2nd account?





reply posted on 18-9-2011 @ 12:45 AM by CatJockey
reply to post by exponent



This did not happen. Steel was not turned into dust, concrete was turned into relatively large chunks and some finer dust as would be expected. Paper was burned, aluminium was oxidised. There's never been any evidence of this other than Judy Wood posting pictures and claiming that this occured.


SOME finer dust? There was a whole, whole bunch of that finer dust. I do not know, but if somebody does, please point me to what the beam sections of just the outside skeleton were (not even the core) and how many were used in one tower and I can easily tell you how big a pile there should be, if one were to stack them as neatly as possible, let alone the haphazard pile that would exist from a controlled demolition, which would be larger. I concur with Dr. Woods as there certainly seems to be an absence of steel from the wreakage.

Again, the beam section (width, height) and how many were in the outer skeleton and we can begin to figure out if there is less debris than would be expected.

Erin's position was a coincidence, and it was not reported as there were more important things to report on.


Pure speculation on your part. Weather modification is a reality. Vail ski resort has been doing it in Colorado to increase snowfall for years. Do you think major governments of the world know less than a ski resort about weather modification? And, again, unprovable speculation on your part. Maybe you are right. But, you do not know with certainty if you are ...

I am not aware of the evidence for this, or even what it is supposed to be implying. Could you elaborate?


I speak only for myself, but I suspect his inference is HARRP.

There were giant planes flown into the towers? I think that may cause some minor electrical issues


Sure, in the WTC towers. Suppose your neighbor severs wiring and blows circuits in his/her house. Will you loose power too? No. All of that is protected at each building. Pretty hard for an electrical issue to backfeed into the system these days. Power distribution is pretty well protected and understood so that an end user cannot blow up other end users stuff.

What do you propose happened? How did an issue in the WTC create this? Doesn't matter if it was a plane or a knucklehead jamming a paperclip into an outlet - no doubt whatever utility runs power in NYC isolates stuff at each building to prevent such occurences. So the planes and fires and explosions severed electrical circuits caused shorts, overloads, etc. in WTC 1&2. How I ask you ...

This didn't happen, the finer dust was from lighter and less solid materials such as gypsum and various fire products.


I guess pooktzA, Dr. Woods, Jesse Ventura and I watched something else than. Lotta damn gypsum and fire products in those buildings, eh?

The vehicles were on fire, or close to a source of high heat. Many were towed away from the WTC as part of the recovery and rescue efforts. Many people were injured by debris, both on fire and not.


Can you point me to a video showing this flaming debris during the collapse? 'Cause every video I see shows only your gypsum and other fire produsts dust falling. No flames and nothing on fire to be seen in the collapses. What is the source of high heat you speak of? I ain't no fire expert, but I fail to see how curtains, carpet, office furniture and paper would continue to burn and NOT be extinguished by the fine dust and winds during collapse. How do you explain pictures of half burned cars? Do you have a link to the injury reports of people injured by flamming debris? Do you have an pictoral or video evidence to share?

According to you, it was chuncks of steel and large slabs of concrete. Those would kill you, not set you on fire. I think this would be the first case in history where somebody was set on fire by a falling piece of flamming paper. Watch out for a piece of paper - it ain't just paper cuts anymore, apparently one can recieve 3rd degree burns? Maybe a 10'X20' section of flamming carpet fell over them?

I am not aware of this happening, could you provide a citation?


How 'bout a pic?

www.drjudywood.com...

How do you discredit the fireman with Diane Swayer at the top of the page? Admittedly not upside down, but ... wierd. Upside down is a minor issue in my book. Is figure toast2a a depiction of what you call some fine dust? Why is there unburnt paper all around the burnt cars? The paper got there before the fires went out, yet I fail to see your flaming debris or heat source anywhere? Could you point them out to me?
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reply posted on 18-9-2011 @ 01:15 AM by CatJockey
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They were involved in the largest building collapse in history and then exposed to significant fires.


It ain't the fact that they were bent, it is how there are bent. Not natural. No buckiling, stress cracks, etc.

What is so suspicious about this? If the front of a car is on fire, then it's not going to look the same as the back


Why only half? And so discretely? And why the sudden oxidation. Nothing but suspicion aroused in my book. Can you show us examples of the same thing happening in other car fires? Please share ...

Fires do not last for 7 years, and debris from fires does not need to be hosed down. However, hoses are used for cleaning and for settling dust caused by things such as pile driving which was very evident in the video I saw


What about reports of buried molten steel, workers boots melting, etc. Remember, only a small, small fraction of the steel in those buildings was exposed to fire. What dust? I thought there was only a small amount of dust amidst large chuncks of unflammable concrete? You told us some dust. And big chuncks of concrete and steel. Yet they needed to hose it down? YET WORKERS ON SCENE ARE NOW DYING FROM INHALING THAT DUST.

Citation again please, I have never seen any evidence of a perfectly circular hole in any glass near the WTC


We cannot do all of your research for you, only point you in the right direction. Forget the windows, how about the large circular holes in buildings? www.drjudywood.com... There are also thermal images on that page showing the heat left days later. Heat from an apparently isolated fire covering a very, very, very small portion of the building.

As far as I am aware, the bathtub suffered extensive damage, which is why it took so long to prepare the site for building the new tower


You and I have different views of the meaning of the word extensive. Those walls hold back the river. Extensive, to me, would accompany some flooding.

What sort of question is this? How could the survival of a specific store in the basement favour any sort of conspiracy theory?


Well, according to you, it was only some dust accompanied by 500,000 tons of flamming debris. Them looney tunes folks should have been crushed and burned according to your theory of events ...

Same answer as above


Me too...

Same as above once again, why are you surprised that not everything was entirely destroyed?


Because it was at the bottom. It should have suffered the most as it had, according to you, the most weight fall upon it at the greatest velocity.

Because Judy Wood is likely mentally ill.


Nice personal attack that does nothing to support your arguments ...

The call for a new investigation has been going on since before Judy Wood existed on the scene, as far back as before the NIST reports were even published


Ummm ... okay. Never acept new evidence and ideas huh? No thank you.

I don't know why people write her off. I find her ideas the most credible and her questions very valid. What is so difficult to conceive about a DEW? Technology is exponential, not linear. Check out the Red Baron's sweet plane. Than look at the SR71 Blacbird that came around 50 years later. Considering it is all 'classified', none of us have clue as to the advances of the military industrial complex are and a DEW is anything but inconcievable, and, like Dr. Woods and PooktzA, I think it the most logical explanation of events on 9/11 ...
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reply posted on 18-9-2011 @ 09:57 PM by CatJockey
Cassius666:
Jody Wood tries to account for the events of 911 with something known as the Hutchinson effect.


My impression is that is not entirely accurate. She uses Hutchison's claims plus the pics, the physical evidence of some of the weird stuff he claims to have done to metal. Which, I find weird too. Speaking of weird, Hutchison falls in this catagory, has apparently beenunable to reproduce his results on demand. Fraud some claim. Could be the case, but could also be the case that the effects he shows concerning metal deformation is real, but he doesn;t really know what he is doing to create it or fully understand it. An accidental scientist vs. a fraud. I would vote the former at this point as I don't know anyone who can produce the results of jellified, delaminated and bent metal. I don't know of a process he could use to produce these results in order to forward a scam. Do you?

The way to debunk Hutchison is not to demand he produce on the spot, as he may not know what exactly he is doing to cause it, but to produce the same effect, by known methods, on the metal that he has shown.

I have listened to several interviews with her and she is adament that she doesn't have theories, rather is showing evidence and compares to Hutchison's claimed result. Her only 'theory' is some type of directed energy weapon as she does not know of any conventional means to describe the evidence she relates. Nothing from kinetic energy, hence the DEW.

Multiple Whitnesses heard explosions. There have been explosions recorded on video as well. The evidence does not support something that is maybe a real thing, but most likely not.


There is that thread with the reformed truther video. For me, it was the opposite. I was an official story dude until very recently due to the conspiracy accept involved, namely too many people had to be in on it and conventional demolition requires a bit of prep.

WTC7 brought me around to the conspiracy side. Firstly, I think most here can agree that one needs not be a structural engineer to watch that collapse and understand it was NOT a fire that caused it. No way. That begs the next question for me: Why WTC7? It was completely unneccesary to achieve the results we see from 9/11, the obvious ones being a further dismantling of the Constitution and more War.

Completely unneccesary and the one building that I think would cause most people to cry foul and BS on the official story. Meaning if it was just WTC 1&2, the conspirators have a better chance of getting away with it. A much better chance. Yet, they did it to WTC7. Completely unneccesary to reshape society and achieve their goals and obviously not from fire. Are we to assume them that stupid?

WTC7 most resembles a conventional demolition with explosives. And they let us see it. Why? Perhaps they knew, even if it was only WTC1&2, questions would be raised. Opposition would arise. Control the thought process of the opposition from the get go. make them think conventional demolition, plant a few firecrackers to make some noise and enhance that thought process, etc.

The people that did this are neither stupid nor new to the game of mob psychology. Alot of people are looking for the boogeyman. They knew this would happen, so throw people off from the beginning, give them WTC7 and a few firecrackers here and there ...

I think that Dr. Wood points out way too many anomalies to be explained by conventional demolitions using explosives/thermite. There sure seems to be a whole bunch of dust and a whole bunch of weird stuff going on with steel cars and very, very localized fires in the buildings. To localized to do what was done to so many vehicles in my book. Vehicles on fire, surrounded by unburned paper, etc.

We all know what opinions are like, and that is mine.
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