WTC Detonations Finally Revealed (Video)

reply to post by Alfie1


True you didn't, and I don't know if anyone has said this yet but buildings that are brought down by demolition LEGALLY have to be cleared completely out of everything including windows which would explain at least to me why it would be clearly louder. But that's my honest opinion.

Originally posted by wcitizen
reply to post by Alfie1

 

Which proves my point.

To disagree with the evidence which is being presented on the basis of serious consideration of its merit is one thing, to say there is zero evidence is quite another, and to dismiss as irrelevant the expert opinion of thousands of respected professionals - and of the FBI iteself which has stated that the 9/11 truthers' case is backed by 'thorough research and analysis'.

Now, you trash this as 'zero-evidence', so what evidence do you believe exists to support the Government's official storyline?

Hundreds of thousands of innocent people have been killed, and continue to be killed, as a direct result of the Government's EXPLANATION of what happened. Now, given that the government's explanation is responsible for all those deaths, don't you think the Government should be forced to provide WATERTIGHT EVIDENCE that it's explanation is based on irrefutable fact?

How would you explain the BBC's report that WT7 had also collapsed, 23 minutes before it collapsed, and that it also knew the exact explanation for it's collapse before it ever collapsed?




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Can you give me a source please for the FBI statement that the 9/11 truthers case is backed by " thorough research and analysis "? thanks .

With regard to evidence in support of the " OS ", if you want to call it that, how about making a start with the 1202 exhibits in the trial US v Zacarias Moussaoui which resulted in conviction ?

The BBC's explanation about reporting the collapse of WTC 7 early is that they received an incorrect report from Reuters :-

What are the alternatives ? and you claim to have considered evidence :-

(a) on a day of horror, confusion and much mis-reporting , the BBC reports early, based on a false report , that WTC 7 has collapsed (a collapse anticipated for hours by the FDNY who had pulled their men back)

(b) the perps thought it was a good idea to provide a foreign news station with a script as to how things were to unfold in their plan to murder thousands of people and the BBC got ahead of themselves.

If you believe (b) over (a) then you are a true truther and that is what I mean by delusion.

Originally posted by v3_exceed

It really doesn't matter that countless eyewitnesses, architects and engineers have all stated plainly that this cannot have happened in the fashion the government would have you believe, people will still doubt.

To a large degree I think people need to believe the official story, because to not believe it creates the possibility that the government could be involved in much more. For many, this is a level of complicity they cannot live with.

..Ex

That is exactly why people in Nazis Germany did nothing while their neighbours and colleagues where frog marched away to death camps. It is the old "say and do nothing or you might be next" attitude!

The people of the USA have forgotten what their grandparents (wwII) and great great grandparent Civil war fought and died for. It is our turn now to fight for what is right, and the British and American governments are not on our side!!!

Originally posted by _BoneZ_

Originally posted by Alfie1
I consider 9/11 trutherism to be a mishmash of multiple delusions based on zero evidence.

Witness testimony is evidence. And yet you're calling the witnesses in my video "delusional", even though they all described the same exact thing? And besides disrespecting the survivors and by-standers, you'd disrespect our hero first responders by calling them delusional for saying the same exact thing?

I don't think the survivors, by-standers, first responders, scientists and engineers are all delusional. I think people that remain in denial and attack the aforementioned because they can't attack the evidence, are the delusional one's.

So, your false claim of "zero evidence" is already debunked by all the witness testimony. By-standers, survivors and first responders heard the booms and saw the flashes, all associated with controlled demolitions, and none associated with fire-induced collapses.

Move along, Alfie.

BoneZ, the fact that witnesses heard explosions on 9/11 is not contested but it is not proof of anything. It would be remarkable if two of the largest buildings in the world could collapse without explosions . People in the lifeboats heard explosions as Titanic went down but cd ? I don't think so.

When I say you have zero evidence I mean that you have absolutely no corroboration that any explosions were cd. You have no evidence of any supply of explosives for the Towers , no evidence of transportation of explosives to the Towers, no evidence of installation at the Towers, no seismic evidence, no rythmic evidence you would expect with cd, no sharp high decibel detonations, no incriminating remains in the rubble and the collapses started where the planes hit.

In view of that I am not likely to be convinced of cd by your rumbly vid and people saying they heard explosions.

Originally posted by Alfie1
Can you give me a source please for the FBI statement that the 9/11 truthers case is backed by " thorough research and analysis "? thanks .

Sure, I will:

LINK TO SOURCE HERE


You'll note that part that says:

"Mr. Gage presents an interesting theory, backed by thorough research and analysis."

This from Michael J. Heimbach, Assistant Director of the Counterterrorism Division, National Security Branch.

Originally posted by _BoneZ_

Originally posted by Alfie1
Can you give me a source please for the FBI statement that the 9/11 truthers case is backed by " thorough research and analysis "? thanks .

Sure, I will:

LINK TO SOURCE HERE


You'll note that part that says:

"Mr. Gage presents an interesting theory, backed by thorough research and analysis."

This from Michael J. Heimbach, Assistant Director of the Counterterrorism Division, National Security Branch.

Thank you, I am pleased to see the FBI is polite to citizens.

Has the FBI acted on Mr Gage's representations ?

Originally posted by _BoneZ_
People in the lifeboats heard explosions as Titanic went down but cd ? I don't think so.

The titanic went down in 1912, that is 98 years ago! and yes reports show that people heard explosions ! type in Google "titanic was sunk on purpose" and you get 804,000 results.

There was even a worker form the shipyard that said he worked on Titanic when they were ordered to change everything that said Titanic to Olympia.

It happened so long ago now that it will never be seriously looked into, which is exactly what is happening with 9/11. My money is on another terrorist attack (False flag again) to take people's minds of 9/11 as more and more people are paying attention!

I would not put it past them to detonate a nuclear bomb on US soil. What a war they could start with that!!!!!!

Originally posted by Alfie1
BoneZ, the fact that witnesses heard explosions on 9/11 is not contested but it is not proof of anything.

Maybe not proof itself, but when you add in the flashes and the puffs (ejections), there can only be one explanation. And there's not one single person in the world that can produce an image or a video of a collapse that was not a controlled demolition, that exhibited flashes, timed booms, and puffs/ejections. Not a one.

So you and anyone else that tries explaining the puffs, booms and flashes away because of your denial, are just wasting your time and energy.


Occam's Razor.

When Occam's Razor is applied, which is easier to believe:

1.) That 3 steel-structured buildings completely collapsed due to office fires (along with a small amount of damage), something that has never happened in the history of the world. And those same 3 firsts also exhibited timed booms, flashes and puffs for the very first time in a fire-induced collapse in history.

or

2.) That 3 steel-structured buildings were brought down with explosives. And those collapses exhibited timed booms, flashes and puffs like is seen in most other conventional controlled demolitions.


It's not a very hard choice to make. I have to seriously question the credibility, education, intelligence, logic, and motives of anyone that chooses #1 above.

Originally posted by Alfie1
Has the FBI acted on Mr Gage's representations ?

Why don't you call Mr. Heimbach and ask him? Wouldn't they be the one's to ask that question to?

reply to post by ugie1028


not to put a damper on your theory but all i hear in this video is the wind blowing over the mic on the camera then the sound of the internal floors collapsing on themselves you must note, that you would hear this sound first before seeing any collapse from the outside as this would happen internally and cause stress on the structure leading to the visual collapse itself, it does sound similar to what you think you heard but is from two very different sources, are their any explosive / demo / weapon specialists that can very the sounds other than the lay person on the street who would hear whatever due to stress etc ?

Wee Mad

reply to post by GoodOlDave


You are aware that during Prohibition times that our government poisoned its citizens with tainted alcohol aren't you and that this same government did mind control experiments on its own citizens with out there knowledge which is called MK-Ultra which more then likely still gos on using different methods......so i'm not saying 911 was a inside job but with the nefarious acts that our government has done in the past would it really shock you that much?


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reply to post by Azp420


Really??? THIS strengthens it????????????? I just dont see what you guys are hearing I hear a whole lot of noise and not ONE series of explosions

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reply to post by thedman


I guess they must also be familiar with the sound of bulidings being demolished without explosives...which suggests that this time they heard something unusual which they describe as bombs.

I don't know how many people on this thread have actually heard a bomb going off. I did hear one in London, an IRA terrorist bomb, and when I heard it it was unmistakablly a bomb, even though I had never heard one before.

I think 9/11 was a false flag but the demolition theory is false imo, i have seen many of these videos where you can supposedly hear explosions and this one is not really that much different. Doesn't convince me at all, but as usual the truthers will stand in one corner, the skeptics in another and a large mudslinging match that has been repeated thousands of times will ensue that will end up nowhere as usual. I will give a star and flag though.

What doesn't make sense about ATS is how a thread like this, that reveals nothing new, can garner so much attention.

Are we all really responding to a video that tells us nothing? If so, then the conspiracy lives within the collective.

Originally posted by LarryLove
What doesn't make sense about ATS is how a thread like this, that reveals nothing new, can garner so much attention.

Are we all really responding to a video that tells us nothing? If so, then the conspiracy lives within the collective.

Just because you and a few others can't hear what we're hearing, doesn't mean there's "nothing new". I'm sorry that some people can't hear what the rest of us are hearing.

But this thread is garnering "so much attention" because it proves what witnesses and the 9/11 truth movement have been saying for so many years.

reply to post by _BoneZ_


There's nothing to hear. You are making this stuff up without any evidence. It is what the Bush administration did to take us to war.

Provide hard evidence and we'll listen. At the moment you are only listening to what you want to hear and that is wrong.

I personally am tired of showing to people that this is not as the OS would have one believe...and no matter how hard people try to wake people up they just dont want to be awoken...they like being blind as they are trained and contentedly blind.

I am a truther but the truth will never be accepted by the majority and if it was to ever come about it will still be denied by the many.

so many people seem to say that it was not possible to set up the demolition...well my friends goverments think in much longer terms as it is the Elite who really control the goverments.

Now longer term planning....set a small explosion off in the buildings at an earlier time say in 1993.....truck enters garage...blows up in apparently the wrong place third floor underground parking....teams of workmen needed to come in and do work...Including demolition experts.

goverments have terms of say four to five years in office but the Elite think in terms of lifetimes.

I truely hope that enough human beings wake up in time for when we will be needed to overthrow these Elite whom wish to control us.

Because right here with these 9/11 threads it shows they are doing a brilliant job of molding us into the very slaves they require.

but to those of you who keeping trying to wake up the many...keep doing it as it will only happen one at a time.

and for each one that awakens that is one more person whom will actually help to save humanity.

Please Let Us Be Enlightened

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Originally posted by gravitational
I think you will find this interesting.

Now it seems to me this vid says it all ,,but i guess nobody who believes the os will even bother to listen to what this honest man has to say!

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Originally posted by LarryLove
You are making this stuff up without any evidence.

That's a pretty harsh accusation. The ATS T&C's forbid me to say what I think of your accusation. Suffice it to say, nobody is making anything up. And your childish accusation aside, you're also accusing the survivors, by-standers, and first responders of "making this stuff up" as well.

It is unfortunate that you cannot hear what the rest of us are hearing. The witnesses and first responders know what they heard, I know what I hear, and judging by the growing popularity of this video here and other places, other people know what they are hearing as well.

Sorry, but debunkers are on the losing end of this one. Nice try by attacking me with accusations since you can't attack the evidence. I wouldn't expect anything less from the debunkers.