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reply posted on 29-9-2010 @ 03:02 PM by remymartin

reply to post by GenRadek

Not to put you on the spot, but maybe you can explain why observing the largest "squib", we see the jet of debris rapidly increasing in velocity

The squib on the right side of the tower is the initial blast.

Which is followed by a secondary blast ejecting more debris from the first blast hole.

As you can see from this they are milliseconds apart

reply posted on 29-9-2010 @ 04:20 PM by GenRadek

reply to post by remymartin

No I do see the jet of air and dust, but this clip does not show the whole effect.
The video does:

YouTube Link

But I was talking about the first large one on the side. Notice how in the actual video, the jet starts shooting out, and then keeps jetting out dust and air, right up until the debris wave collapse meets it and obscures it. My problem with calling it a squib is, since when does a "bomb" blast keep jetting out debris after detonation?

Watch the above video closely and closely watch the largest "side squib". Watch how it keeps jetting the dust and debris. That is not how squibs or any explosives detonate.

Also the lower "puffs" are puzzling as doesnt a squib cause some observable damage? Couldnt they be elevators or elevator equipment plummeting down and impacting the technical floors below, causing the puffs? Or again, the air pressures from the collapse above venting out in those areas?

edit on 9/29/2010 by GenRadek because: add in comment

reply posted on 29-9-2010 @ 04:29 PM by -PLB-

reply to post by remymartin

Luckily we have evidence to test your hypothesis, and it doesn't fit. You can clearly see there is at least one continuous stream, not two short bursts. So the next thing to do is claim there was a whole series of detonations.

But all this speculating isn't really getting anyone anywhere. The important question is if it is plausible that the cause was air being compressed in the vents/shafts/staircases. If it is, these plumes are no evidence for CD what so ever, as we would expect them in a top down collapse.

So why do you think it is not plausible it is compressed air caused by the collapse?

reply posted on 30-9-2010 @ 03:03 PM by remymartin

Originally posted by GenRadek
reply to post by remymartin

No I do see the jet of air and dust, but this clip does not show the whole effect.
The video does:

YouTube Link

But I was talking about the first large one on the side. Notice how in the actual video, the jet starts shooting out, and then keeps jetting out dust and air, right up until the debris wave collapse meets it and obscures it. My problem with calling it a squib is, since when does a "bomb" blast keep jetting out debris after detonation?

Watch the above video closely and closely watch the largest "side squib". Watch how it keeps jetting the dust and debris. That is not how squibs or any explosives detonate.

Also the lower "puffs" are puzzling as doesnt a squib cause some observable damage? Couldnt they be elevators or elevator equipment plummeting down and impacting the technical floors below, causing the puffs? Or again, the air pressures from the collapse above venting out in those areas?

edit on 9/29/2010 by GenRadek because: add in comment

This squib is below the technical floor where the lifts terminate, so you can rule out air pressure from a lift hitting said technical floor.
And there is no collapse here its at least 25 floors below the falling building.So where is the air pressure coming from?

YouTube Link

reply posted on 30-9-2010 @ 03:51 PM by Varemia

reply to post by remymartin

The big, big problem with these squibs is that in all these videos and images, they happen "during the collapse," not at the beginning of the collapse. I've shown in the past that once a building begins to collapse on itself from the top that it will progressively collapse the rest of the way down. What would be the point of planting charges and having someone waiting with the trigger until after it begins to collapse to begin pressing buttons? So far I've failed to see any ejection that comes out the moment of or just before the collapse of the towers, as the demonstrations of CD buildings clearly show. The squibs in CD come out right when the building is coming down, because cause and effect dictates that the explosive must go off before the building can collapse. The ridiculousness of having squibs from demolitions happening during the tower collapse, when explosives aren't even needed to aide the collapse... it's just silly. Even if it was needed, the havoc, destruction, and loss of life from say, half the building collapsing completely would have been insane. However, physics don't work like this, the building was destroying itself once it started collapsing.

reply posted on 30-9-2010 @ 03:53 PM by -PLB-

reply to post by remymartin

Why could air only escape on the floor the lifts terminate?

reply posted on 30-9-2010 @ 04:01 PM by remymartin