U.S. ends combat operations in Iraq

Hmmm... The phrase "combat troops" should probably be noted here.

I'll bet there are still lots of US troops in Iraq.

Security forces, Specialists, drill seargents etc.

Not to mention the private ones

They long ago stopped calling this a war. Now it's called an "Overseas Contingency Operation"

Has a nicer ring to it

The troops can not be in two places at once.

They will be needed 'to liberate' Iran. Then on to Pakistan maybe. Then....

How many permanent bases in Iraq?

[edit on 18-8-2010 by Pentothal]

The war is not ending, rather they are just renaming it. That's all, instead of declaring victory, packing up and leaving, they are only sending a few troops home and then renaming the troops who stay. It's hardly an end to the war. It is however a good deceptive tactic, designed to manipulate the ignorant public into beliving that Obama is finally following through with his promise.

--airspoon

YA were done in Iraq here we come into Iran Aahmadinejadnutjob

Now were only at war with Afganastan what shall we do ohhh thats right Iran has oil I mean Nukes get them.

I hate my government, I hope the U.S. citzens are not held accountable when the world gets sick of us stealing other countrys oil.

Originally posted by Sliadon
The one thing some of you are missing though, is how this is a symbolic gesture by the United States. Yes, there are 50,000 troops still there. But they are staying to continue training Iraqi soldiers, not fight. We have troops stationed in Germany still. Does it mean we are at war with the defunct USSR still? No. We still have bases in Saudi Arabia. It is us helping the people in those nations out still.

There has been mentioning of fear of civil war between the Sunni and Shia Islamic peoples. Those troops of ours helping train are helping Iraq be stable enough to diffuse conflict between the groups. It doesn't mean we are guaranteeing success, but we are trying.

Obama removing the troops says to the world that he is upholding his commitment to end the war in the middle east. A very strong political move.


-Sliadon

oh my god i cant believe that your buying into this war propaganda

Obama removing the troops says to the world that he is upholding his commitment to end the war in the middle east. A very strong political move.

who said removing the troops? he tends to attack iran

A very strong political move.

There has been mentioning of fear of civil war between the Sunni and Shia Islamic peoples.

and did that civil war between the Sunni and Shia happen? no

The one thing some of you are missing though, is how this is a symbolic gesture by the United States.

you must be pro war and pro obama i take.

reply to post by MrVertigo


I honestly 100% think though, that the troops remaining is not done maliciously. I truly think that we are staying with non-combat troops to help stabilize the nation while it builds its democracy.

If I am wrong I will eat my words, but I don't see that being the case. We stayed in Japan awhile after nuking them. We helped reshape their economy into the powerful force it is today. Our motives are not always malevolent.


-Sliadon

Pfff ... no carrier, no "Mission Accomplished" banner, no helmet under the arm, no self satisfactory grin?

What kind of war end is this?

Poor showmanship aside, a war that was never declared cannot actually end.
Probably the reason not to declare it.
As it is an "occupation," as long as someone is occupying it isn't over.

Still, even one soldier coming home alive is news worth celebrating ... so there is some good news.


[edit on 18 Aug 2010 by schrodingers dog]

Originally posted by Sliadon
reply to post by MrVertigo

 

I honestly 100% think though, that the troops remaining is not done maliciously. I truly think that we are staying with non-combat troops to help stabilize the nation while it builds its democracy.

If I am wrong I will eat my words, but I don't see that being the case. We stayed in Japan awhile after nuking them. We helped reshape their economy into the powerful force it is today. Our motives are not always malevolent.


-Sliadon

I truly think that we are staying with non-combat troops to help stabilize the nation while it builds its democracy.

democracy doesn't exist leaders are elected by a ruling elites

We helped reshape their economy into the powerful force it is today.

Japan today as the rest of the world remain in a recession thanks to the united states polices.

reply to post by Agent_USA_Supporter


Again, you need to understand not everything is a blatant conspiracy. Read my old posts from way back when and you'll see I put together a thread where I showed how the US would invade Iran using bases in Iraq and Afghanistan.

www.abovetopsecret.com...


Not everything is some global elite plot to doom us all. There is a difference between "buying into the political propaganda" as you are labeling me and using some rational thought. You may not see it now, but in time you will see that this is a good thing and my "naivety" is not as you label it.

But, I do welcome mature opposition. It is very healthy, and I do thank you for sharing your opposing view to mine.


-Sliadon

What it really means is the Army gets to declare a victory so it can move on and refocus it's attention on eradicating the Taliban in Afghanistan/Pakistan - before declaring another artificial victory over there, before moving on to Iran.

Who cares if we're leaving behind 50,000 troops to maintain the peace in Iraq, that's standard practice for the USA, we have what, 176 bases spread around the globe?!? What the hell's one more? We'll be doing the same thing once we declare "victory" in Afghanistan.

It's all part of the plan from the "Project for the New American Century", i.e., American global empire.

Time to go to Arizona.

Originally posted by Romantic_Rebel
I'm so happy I can kiss my computer screen. President Obama has just won himself new support for this!!!

Of course he will, (right now he needs all the support he can get), he already took credit and claimed victory for a war he originally opposed.

Truly great news but at the same time, let's keep our fingers crossed that nothing happens in the coming weeks/months, otherwise....

[edit on 18-8-2010 by Alxandro]

Originally posted by Romantic_Rebel
I'm so happy I can kiss my computer screen. President Obama has just won himself new support for this!!!

He always had my support, I knew he would do the right thing, this is fantastic news.. God bless our troops.

So 50,000 remaining... ok thats nice. Can someone tell me how many are coming home? I remember someone saying in another thread that they used to think that when they bring the troops home is when we should worry. I guess the idea is that, since these troops are supposed to be all mentally screwed up killing machines, that they wont have any problem "controlling" the unsympathetic US population when tshtf. I`m just repeating what I heard, I don`t mean any disrespect and I even have family in the military. But it`s a fact that there have been a lot of suicides and a lot of these guys comin back are not gonna be in good shape mentally. What I`m saying here is they are gonna need our support for those of us who are close to them. I doubt the gov will provide proper care other than loadin em up with pills that make em go even more crazy when or if they decide as many do, that they don`t like them and they stop taking them suddenly, causing a major shock to the mind. I`ve seen it happen with people on psychotic meds and I almost wonder if its designed to make people want to stop taking them. Anyway, sorry to put a damper on what should be a celebration, but these are things we need to think about. Sooner rather than later.


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Originally posted by Sliadon
The one thing some of you are missing though, is how this is a symbolic gesture by the United States.

witch is the middle finger right ?


Yes, there are 50,000 troops still there. But they are staying to continue training Iraqi soldiers, not fight.

serious? so this means no more IED attacks ? no more attacks on innocent people ? just training thats it ? the iraqi people are happy now ?



We have troops stationed in Germany still. Does it mean we are at war with the defunct USSR still? No. We still have bases in Saudi Arabia. It is us helping the people in those nations out still.

we also have a perfect base in iraq ready to go for iran ,what say you ?

There has been mentioning of fear of civil war between the Sunni and Shia Islamic peoples. Those troops of ours helping train are helping Iraq be stable enough to diffuse conflict between the groups. It doesn't mean we are guaranteeing success, but we are trying.

how many years have we been trying and what do we have to show for that ?

Obama removing the troops says to the world that he is upholding his commitment to end the war in the middle east. A very strong political move.

you got it a political move ..need i say more ?

-Sliadon

Strangely reminiscent of the last Russian convoy leaving Afghanistan.

That scene will have to wait a few more years, but rest assured, it will come.

I wonder if Obama will have a "Mission Accomplished" sign over the White House?

What war? We never declared war.

They can call it whatever they want to, but not a damn think is different today than it was yesterday or 7 years ago. Other than a lot of ghosts. People are still going to die because we're there, and our troops are still going to die.

Bunch of empty words.

I'm watching the news

All i'm hearing is combat troops are leaving

that's it?

Contractors outnumber troops do they not?

reply to post by Sliadon


don't know if this has been covered yet, but here is one of the official white house press releases:
www.whitehouse.gov...

Originally posted by ModernAcademia

Contractors outnumber troops do they not?

yes, yes they do.

Originally posted by ~Lucidity
What war?

you just lost 1/2 a cool point.

here, you can read more about the war here:
www.abovetopsecret.com...