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Originally posted by neo96
this just reaffirms my beliefs about mr obama and the imam and the mosque
now i am to the point of contempt for mr obama and all pro mosque supporters.
Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by Aquarius1
this just reaffirms my beliefs about mr obama and the imam and the mosque
now i am to the point of contempt for mr obama and all pro mosque supporters.
Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by Aquarius1
this just reaffirms my beliefs about mr obama and the imam and the mosque
now i am to the point of contempt for mr obama and all pro mosque supporters.
So to all those that want to give your little rant a star, go ahead. But when women in New York or another American City have laws where only your ankles may be visable to another man, or where your children (if you ever have any) are expected to do their fajr, Zuhr, Asr, Maghrib and Isha you will wonder what the F*** happened to the land of the free!!
Thank You very much but I'll just pass up the racist fear mongering and get to the mutual understanding and respect part of things.
Originally posted by sassyncute
Moderation is needed in everything. Or do you not understand that? Do you think its ok for another countries people to come to your country by the boat load or in this case a camel load and not respect the traditions and values already in place.
They were met with ridicule and hatred, as most immigrants were at that time. But they didn't try to force their culture on society as many who are here and are comming here want to do today.
Time will only tell what the fate of the United States will be. Those who want to build a mosque near Ground Zero do not respect our customs and values as you have stated.
My parents and grandparents emigrated to the US shortly after the turn of the last century. They came here to Ellis Island in search of a better way of life. My grandparents wanted their children and their children's children....me, to have a better way of life. They knew that America was the land of opportunity and that there would be jobs available for anyone who wanted to succeed.
They were met with ridicule and hatred, as most immigrants were at that time. But they didn't try to force their culture on society as many who are here and are comming here want to do today.
They not only do not respect them, they are ultimately opposed to them.
Originally posted by sassyncute
So to all those that want to give your little rant a star, go ahead. But when women in New York or another American City have laws where only your ankles may be visable to another man, or where your children (if you ever have any) are expected to do their fajr, Zuhr, Asr, Maghrib and Isha you will wonder what the F*** happened to the land of the free!!
Originally posted by explosivo
By the way, isn't it nicer to have a discussion revolving un-offensive opinions and ideas without anyone comparing anything to Nazi Germany?
For crying out loud, PLEASE stop doing that in order to keep these discussions clean.
Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
If your parents immigrated here shortly after the last century that would either make you no more than 9 years old or 99 years old.
Either is not likely, credibility is important on ATS by the way.
Where exactly did they immigrate from?
This might give us some insight into this Unconstitutional view you have on freedom of religion?
Nazi and hate names should not have a place in this.
"Ridicule is man's most potent weapon. It is almost impossible to counteract ridicule. Also it infuriates the opposition, which then reacts to your advantage."
Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it. In conflict tactics there are certain rules that [should be regarded] as universalities. One is that the opposition must be singled out as the target and 'frozen.'...
"...any target can always say, 'Why do you center on me when there are others to blame as well?' When your 'freeze the target,' you disregard these [rational but distracting] arguments.... Then, as you zero in and freeze your target and carry out your attack, all the 'others' come out of the woodwork very soon. They become visible by their support of the target...'
"One acts decisively only in the conviction that all the angels are on one side and all the devils on the other." (pps.127-134)
"'The organizer's first job is to create the issues or problems,' and 'organizations must be based on many issues.' The organizer 'must first rub raw the resentments of the people of the community; fan the latent hostilities of many of the people to the point of overt expression. He must search out controversy and issues, rather than avoid them, for unless there is controversy people are not concerned enough to act. . . . An organizer must stir up dissatisfaction and discontent.'"
Originally posted by sassyncute
The point is this. Freedom of religon comes at a price. A price called DEATH to 3000 people in the New York WTC. DEATH to those who oppose Islam and arrests for all others who dare to speak out against Islam. Now they want a BIGGER community Center or MOSQUE in English.
Originally posted by Adevoc Satanae
Originally posted by sassyncute
The point is this. Freedom of religon comes at a price. A price called DEATH to 3000 people in the New York WTC. DEATH to those who oppose Islam and arrests for all others who dare to speak out against Islam. Now they want a BIGGER community Center or MOSQUE in English.
Absolutely right. We should do away with freedom of religion in this country because the price is obviously way to high.