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Originally posted by Lemon.Fresh
Reply to post by spacekc929
No other president has had any inkling of suspicion on where they were born. No other president has gone to such great lengths to hide his past.
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He was given a foreign citizen scholarship, as he came from Indonesia, which did not allow dual-citizenship at the time.
One of the avenues of approach taken by "birthers" in their quest to demonstrate that Barack Obama is not eligible to hold the office of President of the United States is to try to demonstrate that, even if he was born in the United States, he gave up his U.S. citizenship somewhere along the way ... and if he's not a U.S. citizen, then he can't legitimately be President of the United States. Therefore, many birthers have gleefully seized onto the above-cited news report from April 2009, which purports that Barack Obama attended Occidental College in Los Angeles under a scholarship granted only to students of "foreign citizenship." However, this item isn't a news report at all — it's a hoax whose elements are all demonstrably false:
* The article is datelined "April 1, 2009" and tagged "AP," signifying it came from the Associated Press news agency. The date is a giveaway to the hoax (it's April Fool's Day), and the text of the article does not at all fit the standard Associated Press stylebook guidelines.
* There was no such group as "Americans for Freedom of Information" at the time this article began circulating (although someone has since registered a site using that domain name); in fact, a web site for the then-faux organization was established to poke fun at those who believed it did.
Barack Obama attended Occidental College in California for two years as an undergraduate from 1979-81 under the name Obama, not Soetoro (the latter is the surname of his Indonesian stepfather, Lolo Soetoro):
Jim Tranquada, Occidental's Director of Communications, said: "Contemporary public documents, such as the 1979-80 freshman 'Lookbook' [a guide distributed to incoming freshman] published at the beginning of President Obama's first year at Occidental, list him as Barack Obama. All of the Occidental alumni I have spoken to from that era (1979-81) who knew him, knew him as Barry Obama."
Fulbright scholarships for foreign students are coordinated through the American Indonesian Exchange Foundation (AMINEF), which does not fund Indonesians for undergraduate study in the United States (only for master's or doctorate programs).
Barack Obama's student records from Occidental College remain unreleased. He has not chosen to make them public, nor has any court ordered the school to release them.
Originally posted by InvisibleAlbatross
reply to post by neo96
I sure am glad McCain didn't win then. Considering he was not born in the
Originally posted by neo96
1 its been said he was born in hawaii- while it maybe be a part of the us its not part of the conus.
Originally posted by Trueman
Originally posted by hinky
The newspaper birth announcements in Hawaii are hard to discount.
Many Americans have been fooled.
With money or power, you can put on newspapers everything you want.
Originally posted by wardk28
reply to post by spacekc929
Well the difference with Obama is the fact he does have ties to Kenya and with the whole thing with his grand mother saying he was born in Kenya, kinda brings up some questions that didn't arise with other presidents. Remember he is just has much white as he his black so I don't think race is the biggest motive for birthers.
Being stinky and human evolution
When we lived in caves and had just figured out the whole standing upright thing, we were less concerned about body odor. Put simply, humans stunk. Anthropologists now believe that our funky selves helped keep us from being some predator’s dinner. Our scent was so rank that the animal about to eat us would actually recoil in horror at the smell and would move on to eat something less repulsive. Now that’s a defense mechanism.
Originally posted by InvisibleAlbatross
I have asked this before, but I will try again:
What has Obama done for Kenya? After all, if Kenyans conspired to install an illegitimate president, he must do something to repay them. What was it?