The Nordic Alien Species

There are many accounts. I've read so many things I forget where most of them are. I like a few sites more than others, for example burlingtonnews.net as they do really inclusive research, covering many topics, and many first hand accounts. However, heres some information. I could go into the Sirian Wars as well, though it would be best to just google that. I'm fascinated by the Procyon Star system, and one of our closest Alpha Centauri currently. To start with, I'd look at the Hopi myths especially concerning their origins, as this is historical, and precedes many of the contactees that could be accused of disinfo for an agenda. Thats why I really enjoy reading the interviews on the link above of ordinary grass roots accounts versus the more connected (and therefore credentialed by most peoples yard sticks, less by mine).

: www.crystalinks.com...

Native Americans believed in constellations in many cases they believed in the same formations for stars that we do. Their constellations seemed to be marked by the same knowledge that western civilizations on theother part of the globe was aware of. They call them by different names but the star arrangements were very similar....


The Native Americans believed that the home of the Kachinas was on top of a mountain where there were great cloud formations. Today we know that UFO's often hide in what we call Lenticular Clouds, which are cloud formations that seem to be produced to conceal the ships from the visible eye spectrum. Real lenticular clouds move with the rest of the clouds. Whereas the UFO clouds do not - often sitting 5 hours in one place....


The Hopis called the Pleiadians the Chuhukon, meaning those who cling together. They considered themselves direct descendents of the Pleiadians. The Navajos named the Pleiades the Sparkling Suns or the Delyahey, the home of the Black God. The Iroquois pray to them for happiness. The Cree came to have come to earth from the stars in spirit form first and then became flesh and blood.

Each year a medicine man performs the green corn dance where he takes 7 ears of corn from 7 fields of the 7 clans to insure a healthy harvest.

Early Dakota stories speak of the Tiyami home of the ancestors as being the Pleiades. Astronomy tells us that the Pleiades rise with the sun in May and that when you die your spirit returns south to the seven sisters.

They believe that Mythic Mountain is actually the home of the Kachinas. This mountain top is a sacred one. Being the home of the kachina spirits it is the place where all of the large mythic beings they honor in their rituals land. "We come as clouds to bless the Hopi people" is a quote passed from generation to generation.

There are some remarkable drawings that appear to be luminous discs of light in the petroglyphs all along the south west. Photographs of Billy Meier's Pleiadian space and beam ships look just like these rock petroglyphs from long ago....


The chief told the newspaper that "we believe other planets are inhabited and that our prayers are heard there. The arrow on which the dome-shaped object rests stands for travel through space. The Hopi maiden on the dome-shaped drawing represents purity. Those Hopi who survive Purification Day will travel to other planets. We, the faithful Hopi have seen the ships and know they are true."

Chief Katchongva also told of Hopi prophecies that say his people will be divided three times before the *True White Brother arrives to take the faithful away. He said the first division occurred in 1906, when Chief Yukiuma were driven from the old town of Oraibi to Hoteville. The second division, said the chief, happened in 1969, when contact was made with a flying saucer that whispered a message to the tribe.

Here a little from a Alex Collier interview:

www.bibliotecapleyades.net...



AC: I want to talk to you about Lyrae and how the human race colonized our galaxy. Based on the age of the Suns and the planets in our galaxy, it was decided that the human life form was to be created in the Lyran system. The human race lived there for approximately 40 million years, evolving. The orientation of the human race in Lyrae was agricultural in nature. Apparently, we were very plentiful and abundant, and lived in peace.

Then, one day, huge craft appeared in the sky.

A large ship came out of the huge craft and approached the planet Bila, and reptilians from Alpha Draconis disembarked. Apparently, the Alpha Draconians and the Lyrans were afraid of each other. I told you before that the Alpha Draconians were apparently the first race in our galaxy to have interstellar space travel, and have had this capability for 4 billion years. Well, when the Draconians came and saw Bila, with all its abundance and food and natural resources, the Draconians wanted to control it.

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www.agoracosmopolitan.com...

Scientists confirm Extraterrestrial genes in Human DNA

Research findings continues work of DNA Nobel Prize Winner Dr. Francis Crick....


There have been eyewitness accounts globally, including the broadcasted video footage of professional broadcasters, by millions of people of apparent extraterrestrial spacecraft. Exo-scientists indicate that this is because "these Extraterrestrials have sought to observe, or intervene on Earth, as a result of human beings having the genetic footprints of their ancient forbearers." It is important to note that exo-scientists do not claim that all extraterrestrials observed by humanity, do so because of a genetic association with humanity, although "genetics" is a reported prime motivation.

Earth, therefore, appears to represent a "strategic genetic frontier", between scientifically ascertained extraterrestrials who "seeded", Earth, and other extraterrestrials with varying genetic agendas. ...


The knowledge of astrological facts within diverse tribal communities is associated with claims of extraterrestrial contact long before modern astronomy, further corroborates exo-scientific claims of evidence of extraterrestrial contact in Human DNA.

Aboriginal tribes in the Americas, Africa, and elsewhere embraced the "animistic" spirituality of the original reported spiritually and technologically advanced human and other extraterrestrials who "seeded" Earth. These tribes were apparently inspired by original constituents of human and other extraterrestrials to be custodians of "Mother Earth", and to live in harmony and balance with nature....


Some of these Extraterrestrials, which apparently included Human Extraterrestrials who rebelled against the communal spirituality and "free will" ethic of original Human Extraterrestrials who had "seeded" Earth, reportedly simply sought to exploit the Earth for its mineral resources. According to the exo-scientific research findings of Dr. Salla, "Other rebelling materialistic-oriented working groups of Human and other E.T., viewed Earth Humans to be useful specimens to be incorporated in genetic experimentation programs."...


"In the beginning, Earth was colonized by E.T. races, including human, insectual, botanical and reptilian species interests." Dr. Salla's collaborative team of exo-scientists indicate. Land continents first supporting advanced human colonies were Lemuria and Poseidia (Atlantis) "which sank over 23,000 years ago."

Many African tribes have linked their origins with Lemuria. ...


Exo-scientific research testifies to Earth Humans having originated in the Lyra system of the universe. Lyrans apparently grew into Sirian, Arcturian, Antarian, Pleaidian, Andromedan, Cignus Alphan, Alpha Centauri, Sagittarius A & B, and Cassiopia.

[edit on 26-9-2008 by mystiq]

And here are a few more, especially of interest is the account of Khyla from the procyon star system. I find it very interesting as it describes a trojan style takeover of their system, which he claims they have finally restored, that began in the Rigel system, and is similar to ours. I've only included a bit from this, but you should go to the link.

www.galacticdiplomacy.com...


On February 20, 1954, a delegation of ‘human looking’ extraterrestrial races met with the Eisenhower administration in an unsuccessful effort to reach an agreement on the US’s thermonuclear nuclear weapons program. [65] The apparent stumbling block was that these extraterrestrial races were not willing to provide technology that might be used by the military-industrial interests that dominated the Eisenhower administration and set the tone for subsequent extraterrestrial – human dialogue....


This second category of extraterrestrial races is primarily ‘human’ and can easily integrate with human society in the manner described by Dean and others where they can be indistinguishable from the rest of humanity. [66] These races are described to be from star systems such as Lyra, Vega, Pleiades, Sirius, Procyon, Tau Ceti, Ummo, Andromeda and Arcturus who have provided some of the genetic material for the seeding of humanity on Earth. [67] According to Alex Collier, a total of 22 extraterrestrial races have provided genetic material for the ‘human experiment’. These include Reptilian, Gray and Anunnaki races described earlier as well as those races in this second group which Collier describes as ‘benevolent’...


Telosians

The subterranean ‘extraterrestrials’ are described to be remnants of previous human civilizations on the Earth’s surface such as Lemuria and Atlantis and are thus genetically related to humanity. The most famous description of one of these ancient races is found in the posthumously published ‘diaries’ of Admiral Richard Byrd who describes a secret expedition to the North Pole where he was taken into the subterranean dwelling of an advanced race with Nordic physical characteristics....


While there continues to be controversy over the veracity of Admiral Byrd’s diaries, there are a number of reported encounters with representatives of an advanced subterranean human race. A large subterranean city called Telos is argued to lie below Mt Shasta, California and has been described by individuals who have either physically traveled to this city and witnessed it, or those who claim to have telepathically communicated with the occupants of this city. Prominent UFO researcher, William Hamilton, claims to have met representatives of Telos who described to him the advanced technology and structure of Telos and their connection to the former civilization of Lemuria. ...

According to the Dianne Robbins, who claims to have telepathically communicated with the Telosians, they are the remnants of the Ancient Lemuria who made Mt Shasta their home after the destruction of their continent....


The Lyrans posses Nordic features and are quite possibly the ‘Elohim’ described in religious traditions both on Earth and around the galaxy. Due to the Lyrans role in the genesis of the human presence in the galaxy, the Lyrans can understandably be argued to have the most detailed understanding of human origins and galactic history. They can be described as the ‘Galactic historians’ for the human species....


One of the many human space colonies spawned by the Lyrans was eventually established on planets in the Rigel solar system in the Orion Constellation. At some point in its history, Rigel with its Nordic population presumably underwent a destructive civil war and was taken over by Grays. According to George Andrews, a Nordic from the star system of Procyon, Khyla, revealed much information about the Rigelians, Procyons and Grays to a human contactee whose information was consistent with other sources and Andrews concluded was credible. [102] The contactee described Khyla as follows:

Khyla looked like a tall handsome human, slender but muscular, masculine yet ethereal. He appeared either naturally or artificially to have black around his eyes, almost like kohl [coal]. His face was close to exquisite, but definitely masculine. He had a gaunt face with high cheekbones and piercing cobalt-blue eyes. He had fine blond hair that was almost shoulder-length. He had a muscular neck. His skin was pale flesh color, with a whitish overtone. It is hard to gauge his exact height because of the circumstances under which our encounter occurred, but it was somewhere between six and seven feet....


Andrews writes about the history of Rigel as revealed by Khyla to the contactee:

The ancestors of the short Grays were once tall Blonds. The Great War took place…. Before the great war, Rigel was a vast empire, which had been the source of most galactic seeding. All Rigelians were tall Blonds. A colony had already been established on Procyon. The Great War was a civil war of Rigelians versus Rigelians, and lasted the equivalent of three Earth centuries. A group of Rigelians who realized that the Great War was about to break out took off for the Procyon colony in crude, clandestinely built ships. … They were the only Rigelians to escape the cataclysmic devastation. All those who had remained on Rigel were transformed into short Grays....


Procyons

Most of the Rigelians who fled their planet traveled to the star system of Procyon to restart their civilization. Procyon is a binary star system about 11.4 light years from Earth, and it was apparently the fourth planet in this system that the Rigelians established their new colony. [105] According to Andrews, the colony of Procyon flourished until it became embroiled in sinister effort by the Grays that now populated Rigel to subvert Procyon. Khyla described the process adopted by the Grays in their subversion of Procyon:

The Grays began to visit us, first a few as ambassadors, then as specialists in various domains where their expertise could be useful to us, as participants in different programs that involved mutual collaboration, and finally as tourists. What had begun as a trickle became a flood, as they came in ever-increasing numbers, slowly but surely infiltrating our society at all levels, penetrating even the most secret of our elite power groups….


It was later confirmed by Hank that the stars of origin of his people were Tau Ceti and Epsilon Eridani. In later sessions Oscar discussed some reasons for the presence of the aliens. He said the[y] do not like the situation with some of the small grey aliens. He corrected us when we used the term 'grey' and said that they are actually white. The Tau Cetians feel that the abductions being carried out by some of the Greys are a great injustice to humanity. ‘They are a parasitic race that has and is preying on human civilizations throughout the universe, Oscar relayed. He added that our government's involvement with the grays is very dangerous and out of control….The Tau Cetians have been preyed upon by these aliens before and they are working with other races and communities that were also victims…. (Oscar) wants people to know that if they are contacted by the Tau Cetians (humans such as he described) to not be afraid because they are here to help...

And here:

toddjumper.com...

Khyla here gives a detailed description of a trojan horse style takeover, then:

"Humanity is not about to be invaded. Humanity is not in the middle of an invasion. Humanity has been invaded! The invasion has taken place, and is NEARLY in its final stages. Great invasions do not happen with thundering smoke and nuclear weaponry. That is the mark of an immature society. Great invasions happen in secrecy.

That is only a small part from a very detailed description by the supposed Khyla.


Also, of interest is: en.wikipedia.org...
Elizabeth Klarer's story with the Alpha Centaurians.

As a person of Swedish ancestry, I find this thread to be extremely offensive and predjudicial. It's shameful that ATS would permit the discussion of a topic so obviously ludircrous and ridiculous.

Imagine the outrage if a thread was posted asserting that black people were actually a species of aliens. This is quite shameful, and had made me reconsider whether to join ATS as a member.

Deny ignorance indeed!

When it comes to classifications, how does one decide what the "nordic" species actually is? What are the defining characteristics of them as opposed to the other humanoid but non-human-looking groups?

Blond and normal looking skin is definitely in, but what about chalk white skin, really fine, chalk-white hair and blue eyes(obviously not normal but no other obvious distinctions)? What about purple/blue skin and otherwise normal?

I'd just like to try to classify my aliens a bit better in the future. The classifications that we have now seem to be rather vague and nowhere near all-encompassing.

Originally posted by siriuslyone
Nordics perspire excessively.
If you ever encouter them, you will know.!!
I spent a year in the company of 2 Nordics, one male and one female, they were partners.
They had no problem answering any/all of my questions.

You dident happen to be in a mental facility at the same time did you?

Did any of you lot hear the interview of the guy who was abducted by greys and was missing for a few days?
They made a film (movie) of it called fire in the sky. Well the interview is far more ineresting than the film. (I think it was Art Bell coast to coast).
You can download it with the torrent of the film.
In the interview after he escapes the greys, they leave him alone because he is being violent. The greys dock with another ship where there are human looking aliens, there. He thinks they are going to help him but in fact they physically subdue him, and drug him by putting a hood on his head. He is then returned to Earth.

This means that they are in League with the greys.
And the theory that they are fighting the against the greys is rubbish.
I think it's really odd that there can be aliens that look like us at all.

reply to post by Dr X


The idea of a war of human-looking aliens against greys and reptilians always struck me as an absurd idea that not only ran against logic but was not supported by abductee claims.

I hear that a lot of alien abductees see a lot of different groups of aliens at one time or another or see many species working together so I think that most of the people who are spreading this "the blondes are fighting to save humanity from the greys and reptilians" rumor are probably not abductees or contactees.

Many contactees talk about this, but the only one that comes to mind instantly without any more research, and I'm too tired right now, is Alex Mercier. North America is grey territory, according to what I've read, so when greys work with human types its for several reasons. One, an agreement had to be made between the two competing groups because, due to lineage the nordics wish to work with the person, but that means greys get to too in the agreement. Or, two, the nordics are negative factored too, having either aided the negative factions in their star system, much like our cabal, or they were taken over. Also, some could be captured and cloned. From one account I read, they calm the abductee. Then, if you've read Alien Mind, which is a free download, but is also on eyepod.org, there are several types of federations, mainly the older more advanced hyperversal groups, and those more conserving, and a fast growing group that exploits systems it forces or coherces into joining them, in other words, they really come out ahead. So yes, you do see them working together.

[edit on 30-9-2008 by mystiq]

reply to post by AboveTopSecret.com


Hi,

i am writing in response to 'nordic alien"... I have had a series of confrontaions with these types.. They are not angels, my expeience has been far from good.. No one has ever mentioned the 15inch knife they like to use or the fact that they are recruiting certain types of people to fight their war. I declined to this very very large caped nord, and he was far from happy with me. In fact i ended up in a battle for my life with him.
They underestimate "the human spirit" and i was able to club him over the head, seems the only vunerable place to attack if needed..
Remember they arre not Good, in fact non of them are!
be aware that our human spirit & "mana" is unique in this solar system, our gift from mother nature.

peace & respect
dc

reply to post by ThunderCloud



Hi,

i am writing in response to 'nordic alien"...
I have had a series of confrontations with these types.. there is nothing angelic about them, my experience has been far from good..
No one has ever mentioned the 15inch knife they like to use or the fact that they are recruiting certain types of people to fight their war.
I declined to this very very large caped nord, and he was far from happy with me. In fact i ended up in a battle for my life with him.
They underestimate "the human spirit" and i was able to club him over the head, seems the only venerable place to attack if needed..
Remember they are not Good, in fact non of them are!
be aware that our human spirit & "mana" is unique in this solar system, our gift from mother nature.

peace & respect
dc

Originally posted by norbut
Remember they are not Good, in fact non of them are!

That's a bold statement. Many contactee accounts contradict your statement above.

Originally posted by mystiq
North America is grey territory, according to what I've read

This would certainly seem to correlate with alien types reported by abductees/witnesses; 80% of aliens reported in North America are of the Grey type, as compared to only 12% in Europe where the Nordic alien is the most commonly reported type (especially in the United Kingdom).

reply to post by Cabanman


Actually, few Nordics have been depicted with other characteristics, such as shorter, yet still long black hair, long, shiny bangs and with normal lips, rather ten colorless lips. As a fact, I have seen two female Nordics and its hard to distinguish them from normal teen aged people. The thing that told it to me where its pink, black and yellow pupils. But they had normal eyes, with all of them having the white part. When I saw them, they were in the middle of a forest interrogating a shadow person "Hat Man" and teasing him. I saw they had a gray tied to, while another gray was with them. Actually, the grays are split in two bands, with the shadows and demons lingering one one side, and the nordics and angels on the other. They just call them Nordics because the majority looks like Scandinavians, but not all. Also, they have a bad side, but not an evil one, they like teasing and abducting people and for some reason they are included with the negative aliens category along shadow people. But believe me, they don't mean damage, just business, just like Klaatu on The Day The Earth Stood Still.

Also, a thought I had when I was camping with friends on the forest was that the females looked Sexy

Originally posted by norbut
reply to post by ThunderCloud

 

Hi,

i am writing in response to 'nordic alien"...
I have had a series of confrontations with these types.. there is nothing angelic about them, my experience has been far from good..
No one has ever mentioned the 15inch knife they like to use or the fact that they are recruiting certain types of people to fight their war.
I declined to this very very large caped nord, and he was far from happy with me. In fact i ended up in a battle for my life with him.
They underestimate "the human spirit" and i was able to club him over the head, seems the only venerable place to attack if needed..
Remember they are not Good, in fact non of them are!
be aware that our human spirit & "mana" is unique in this solar system, our gift from mother nature.

peace & respect
dc

What kinds of people would that be? Would it by any chance be people with vivid imagination?

reply to post by AboveTopSecret.com


I am of noric pleadian hertiage myself. I am distantly derived from one of the other planets and am also metephysically derived from Earth in a co-existing universe and actually live in Visby, Sweden in that particular universe and reality. It is very complicated to explain. In this universe; I am physically related to the pleadians, however. I am not from scandenavia in this universe;but, I do have many of the same features. I am telepathic among other things. Although I am not from Scandenavia; my Pleadian background makes me a directly related cousin to the Nordic humans. I derive from a group that also populated Sweden. The Nordics living on earth and nordic heritage and ancestry are the reason the greys haven't been able to completely take this planet over. Earth would be in serious trouble if it weren't for our presence here. Notice that Swedes seem to be more concerned with diplomacy, peace, and well being than any other industrialized nation. That's because it's genetically programed into them. The greys have no control over Earth because of us and niether do the Reptilians. That is why they're working with the US military. They think that they can stop us from running them off of this planet and creating an environment of peace for humanity if they work closely with a power like the United States secret forces and black projects on an infiltration plot that not even our highest politicians and officials know about. The Pleadian embassy in this solar system protects people like myself under many complicated galactic federation treaties. Besides the fact that Pleadien technology is much further advanced than that of the greys and reptilians; all people of nordic heritage are protected by the embassy and will prosecute and attack nayone who interfears with our peace mission. Therefore; we can not be touched. The U.S. government special forces devision knows this very well and leaves the nordics and all related to the nordics completely alone. The U.S. military has the technology of the greys; which is several thousand years behind our technology. With that fact in mind; we are left completely alone to conduct our mission of peace and not directly interfear by giving oursleves away. People reading this will think I am completely insane. That is the reason I'm not worried about telling this information. Very few will actually believe it. Not only are Swedes very intent on peace and well being;also, notice that they seem to display very telepathic capabilities whether they realize it or not.

reply to post by Paul_Richard


the aliens are beings just like us humans are. there can be good and evil in one race of species.

The nordic are humans like we are,all these so called aliens are human like we are .This is because we all come from the same life source.We will never find a life form in existance that is not related to us just as we are related to all of the lifeforms we randomly kill on our planet.

I was abducted by humans and little things,like humans that I believe were a distinct race of their own but still humans.

I interacted with the "nordic" humans but I never thought of them as Nordic .They were all blonde though and white.You couldnt tell the difference between them and us if we dressed the same.

I have found others with stories like mine and they interacted with blonde white humans as well.

In fact after reading hundreds of accounts I believe that the descriptions that stand out the most are
small greys
blonde humans
reptiles
insectoids

In that order.
All terran and related to us in all probability.You see once you interact with a new race of humans you change your mindset and seek the most rational explanation,it is only if you HAVE NOT interacted that you seek to disprove as opposed to seek to prove.

Just for the heck of it why dont we stop calling them aliens and find a better handle for them ,maybe a more accurate one.Blondies is a better term because it seems they are all blonde,sounds a little boring but I guess you wouldnt think so if you were from Uganda.

Either way it might be a cool idea to start to aknowledge that these are humans of different races BUT OF THE SAME SPECIES.

Then people wont be afraid and we will achieve disclosure to some degree.

Ive been abducted and I have a pretty open mind,but little green men and using words like alien all the time,gimme a break already,why make it so difficult when it is so simple.

reply to post by TerraX


I am only speaking from personal experiance!

Norbut,it sounds like you were abducted by the same group that took me ,you are one of VERY FEW abductees I have read about that was OFFERED THE CHANCE TO FIGHT IN A GALACTIC WAR.

This is to weird to be a coincidence so I absolutely believe you.

I believe all of what you say but encourage you to remember that there are several groups operating independantly at times AND IN CO-OPERATION when it suits their agendas.

I also had medical procedures done to me but I gave permission. After I awoke and the procedure was stopped I was given a complete explanation,then permission was requested.

All of our experiences are EXTREMELY IMPORTANT for example,I know that there are times that several groups co-operate together and when they do there is a military presence and the humans in the white robes are supervising or overseeing everything,enforcing the agreement if you will.

I know the little things didnt like me and were forced by the agreement to treat me as a human being,but I also know that if the group wasnt working together when I was picked up I would have been at the mercy of the little things COMPLETELY.

I now know from your experience and others that I BELIEVE 100%,THAT MY SUSPICIONS ARE VERIFIED.There are times when we are abducted by one of the groups I faced ,but operating independantly following ONLY THEIR OWN AGENDAS.You didnt have an advocate as many do not have,I had an advocate that had to mis-represent facts in a very manipulative way in order to protect me.There is hope because we have advocates out there.

I know that if we all keep exchanging information we will extrapolate the seperate agendas and begin to get the real explanations we are seeking.

Please dont stop sharing your experiences ,they are VERY IMPORTANT TO HUMANITY.

I AM SORRY YOU HAD TO BE A VICTIM AS I AND MANY OTHERS HAVE BEEN THROUGHOUT HISTORY.

Always remember "that which does not kill me makes me stronger".

We are all here after our abductions so somewhere within us is a strength we DONT YET RECOGNISE.

But imagine if disclosure happened next week,who would be able to handle the information and continue to function "normally"?thats right ,abductees would be STRONG IN AN AREA THEY DONT YET RECOGNISE.