reply to post by double_frick
i have to be honest,
Hi Double_Frick, I have to be honest as well.
i have always checked in on your "big" previous thread, about oct. 28, 2011.
Perhaps you mean the 10.11.11. thread.
i've always sort-of respected it, in the way you handled yourself and also that date coincides with the date that i heard in my own heart
(despite the popular 12 21 2012 date...
From my perspective, always go with your inner feelings/discernment/intuition or what resonates, always follow your heart.
do you know any more than hidden hand?
Based on what I've read from the hidden hand message and what I've personally experienced from interactions with those behind the scenes of earth I
would have to agree with the following quote by David Wilcock in reference to the world/elite or so called PTB - 'illuminati.'
"They are a fundamentalist religion just like any of the others, they still believe this weird stuff, they follow these teachings, they actually
buy into this. David Wilcock
Here is another quote from the original post.
When it comes to belief and 'in the know' there is little difference between others and the elite, most have been taught to believe in what they
believe and truly believe they are 'in the know.' There is little difference between the elite and the many institutions of the world that have been
led to believe they are 'in the know.' The majority of the world believes they are 'in the know' with what they believe.
how do you know more than a grain of sand? you do not,
(Metaphorically speaking) if we are referring to 'all there is to know' on an infinite level then one can say we know less than a grain of sand but
does that change what that grain of sand truly is regardless of how one perceives it to be?
If you are to ask me how can I know more than others on the planet then my only honest answer to you would be that I've been off the planet and
visited other existences/places with memories of some of those experiences. I've asked many questions and been shown many things therefore I feel
that I'm in somewhat of a position to have a little more of the earth life picture then perhaps someone that is living a life based on their own
earth life education, upbringing, culture, tradition, belief/religion and so on.
In sharing the above and being in such a position it doesn't make me anymore special or better than anyone. I do not believe in such a thing as more
special or better.
its just a different grain of sand.
(Metaphorically speaking) if we compare a grain of sand to representing a 'belief' how many grains of sand would you say there are in the world? Can
everyone's grain of sand or 'belief' be correct?
i'm not defending hidden hand, not anything you read should be taken to heart 100%. i fully believe in taking what resonates and discarding
As previously stated: “From my perspective, always go with your inner feelings/discernment/intuition or what resonates, always follow your
the reason i feel you lack understanding, is that good and bad ARE illusions.
I can respect your own personal opinion/belief on the above statement. As the saying goes: Everyone's entitled to their own
opinion/perspective/belief and there are many things from my perspective in this world that are illusions but then again there are many things that
are not illusions. Getting into what is an illusion and what's not an illusion is a very complex/deep topic/subject (at least for me.)
One can believe that love, hate, evil, pain, joy, negative, positive, happiness, sadness or (oppositions) do not exist. That is everyone's own
personal choice/decision/belief but does it change what truly IS?
Some may agree on the following words love, hate, good, bad, happiness, sadness as being merely words, concepts or ideas according to one's
definition/understanding/belief of such words based on culture/upbringing/belief and so on but does it change what truly IS?
When we refer to what truly IS? We refer to the way it really IS.
One would may call that the 'Truth.'
Are there truly oppositions in life?
Does the night truly exist and does the day truly exist?
One can believe that the night is an illusion or that it's not really dark but does it change what it really IS?
Or what IS it really?
One might reason with themselves and say in order to accurately answer the above questions one must first truly understand the true reality/nature of
the earth life/existence and understand how the human body perceives things from the physical senses.
What's truly behind the materials of this world if anything?
Are all of the physical senses illusion?
Are all of a persons inner feelings illusion?
Is everything in the world that a person sees illusion?
Are all things in the world including our very existence an illusion?
One can also believe that the day is an illusion and that it's not really light but dark or neither but does it change what it truly IS?
When someone feels that they LOVE someone do they really love them or is Love merely an illusion and those who feel they love someone do not really
love them after all or do they?
Is everything in this world an illusion or are some things truly the way they ARE?
People can believe in just about anything, they can believe that the rocks of the earth are their deceased relatives. They can believe that the trees
are their Creators, they can believe in virtually anything about the creation, evolution, human origin or life in general.
But does it change what it truly IS?
Does it change the 'truth' behind the world of how everything on the planet came to be?
Is there such a thing as truth?
How many versions of the creation and human origin can there be?
How many truths can there be if there even is such a thing as truth?
Can everyone's belief/theory in human origin/creation be correct?
in a way you (or everyone, how can you know though as you are just you, now) can prefer "good" over "bad" but they are still just
We can agree that good and bad are merely words/perceptions or ideas for a person according to one's definition/understanding/belief of such words
based on culture/upbringing/belief and so on but does it change what truly IS?
Do oppositions in life truly exist?
Is there such a thing as a right way to live for a 'soul' and a wrong way to live for a 'soul.'?
Of course anyone can philosophize/theorize/reason with themselves about good, bad, right and wrong being merely words/beliefs for people based on what
they believe to be good, bad, right or wrong and in doing so they are correct in suggesting such a thing based on the many different beliefs/religions
or versions/definitions of such words in the world.
Many various cultures/religions/beliefs believe 'good' to be one thing and bad to be another thing differing from other countries
religions/beliefs/cultures such as a woman being stoned to death for 'adultery' somewhere in the middle east or someone being punished for breaking
the law based on that particular country's law of the land. Countries agree that murder is not 'right' therefore punishable by prison sentence or
in some cases 'death sentence' depending on the circumstances/situations. Of course if it is a war then killing someone is looked upon as acceptable
by a country 'fighting for their cause' or country whatever that may be.
What is right for one person may be different for another person based on upbringing, culture, society, education, belief and so on.
What is wrong for a another person may be different for yet another person based on upbringing, culture, society, education, belief and so on.
If we are to rationalize/philosophize/reason – we may suggest the following:
Right is merely an idea/belief to a person of what is right.
Wrong is merely an idea/belief to a person of what is wrong.
Based on the above we can make the presumption that there is no right or wrong since it's merely only an idea of what is right or wrong based on
one's belief or definition of what is right or wrong.
The above can be rationalized/reasoned and can even make sense but does it change what is really IS?
Is there such a thing as right or wrong for the Creator or Creators?
Is there such a thing as a Creator or Creators?
What would the Creator or Creators have to say about it?
If there is no right or wrong then there must be no right way of living or wrong way of living, what does that make this life then if there are no
rules or a person is free to live and do anything they want without consequence?
If there is no right or wrong do you believe in consequence to action?
Is there such a thing as karma or a consequence to one's action?
Does it really matter what anyone does in their life if there are no consequences?
Is there a certain path to follow that leads in one direction and another path that leads in another direction or do all paths regardless of how a
person lives lead only in one direction?
Is there anything inside a person that makes them FEEL
like perhaps they are doing something good, bad, right or wrong?
a. A set of principles of right conduct.
b. A theory or a system of moral values:
A few added quotes:
“They are not following dharma who resort to violence to achieve their purpose. But those who lead others through nonviolent means, knowing
right and wrong, may be called guardians of the dharma.”Buddha quotes (Hindu Prince Gautama Siddharta, the founder of Buddhism, 563-483 B.C.)
"If you think it is difficult to do the right thing with your life, think about how difficult it will be to live your life doing the wrong
things. Many people think doing the right thing is hard, and I agree with them, it is hard. On the other hand, doing the wrong thing seems easy, but
boy, oh boy, does it get hard fast. And undoing the wrong thing seems to take a lot more time and energy than we thought, all the while taking this
effort away from doing the right thing. So before you go for that easy, comfortable wrong thing, take a second look at what will be involved in
undoing it, and then do the right thing. Believe it or not, doing the right thing turns out to be doing the easiest thing.”
“There is no easy formula for determining right and wrong livelihood, but it is essential to keep the question alive. To return the sense of
dignity and honor to manhood, we have to stop pretending that we can make a living at something that is trivial or destructive and still have sense of
legitimate self-worth. A society in which vocation and job are separated for most people gradually creates an economy that is often devoid of spirit,
one that frequently fills our pocketbooks at the cost of emptying our souls.”
"The truth of the matter is that you always know the right thing to do. The hard part is doing it."
Here's another thread that I started a while back on a discussion of what is right and what is wrong. Feel free to share your own personal
opinions/beliefs/perspectives on the subject on this thread or the other.
The Law of One - What is Right and What is Wrong?
sorry, my 3 cents.
No apology necessary and thanks for sharing your opinions/beliefs and I hope we can further discuss in a respectful and friendly manner.
Love & Peace
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