Originally posted by standrewscross
the Sunday observance. I fear it is the celebration of other gods and will be judged that way. Do you think the current church can be the Bride with
Lets begin with the question of Sunday observance.
As far as I'm concerned, the meaning of this practice is controlled by the intention.
The church has been celebrating Sunday, as the day of the week when Christ rose from the dead, since the very earliest days of the church. Probably as
early as John's time, and certainly at least a couple of centuries before the time of Constantine..
What was their intention? If their intention was to celebrate the saving power of God as revealed in the resurrection of Christ, then that is
precisely what they were doing. If they were not conscious of celebrating other gods, there is no reason why God should judge it as such.
Yes, they were at the same time neglecting the Jewish practice of the seventh-day Sabbath. But that was legitimate, because the seventh-day Sabbath is
an ordinance of the Mosaic Law. We have been told, by Paul, that we have been released from the Mosaic Law and living in the freedom of the
"But now we are discharged from the law, dead to that which held us captive, so that we serve not under the old written code, but in the new life of
the Spirit."- Romans ch7 v6
So the early church was perfectly entitled to ignore the Sabbath ordinance, if the Holy Spirit was allowing them to do so.
To those who want to re-impose the seventh-day ordinance, on Christians, I would want to say;
"Foolish Galatians! Who has bewitched you?"
Because these are people who want to live in slavery. They want to live once more under the yoke of the Law of Moses, from which the Gospel has
Seventh-day observance is yet another facet of the perennial human problem of legalism. Whenever somebody like Paul or Luther tries to knock legalism
on the head, it keeps coming back under a different disguise.
Have faith- believe in the freedom of the Spirit, and do not try to subject yourselves to the slavery of the Law.
It's also another facet of the "everybody else in the church is wrong, we're the only ones who are right" attitude, which groups like the
Jehovah's Witnesses use to justify their existence.
We need to be wary of that one as well.
My "conscious choice" model is really based on my assumption that God is a God of justice, who would not punish people for things which were not
their own fault.
Those who are cast into the fire in ch14 are those who worship
the Beast- the mark itself is secondary to the worship, a symptom of willingness
I still think this is in line with my conviction that the intention is key