reply to post by Eliad
Eliad, it's good to see that your patrolling the Mid East section of the board. Anyway, as far as one side looking worse than the other, that's what
happens when one side is worse than the other.
First of all I'd like to say your commitment to the matter is almost admirable.
At first I wondered why would anyone want to show any of the violence that goes on here? I admired the fact that you chose to show pictures from both
sides, but still, why would anyone want to show the horrors of war..
Why would anyone want to show the horrors of war? Trust me, I don't want to and I would rather not, however the sad truth of the matter is that the
American people are financing this. I show these pictures and give this data because the American people are paying for something to which they have
no idea. All they know about the issue, is what the MSM shows them, which is none of the Israeli abuses or terrorism. If an IDF is injured, we will
hear about it for days, plastered all over the news, yet we hear nothing about the many, many more acts of terrorism on behalf of Israel. My guess is
that it's due to the pro-Zionist owned media, along with the massive lobbying effort on behalf of Israel, the likes of which has never been seen
before on the planet. If Nazi Germany had the same lobbying effort, I could guarantee that they would have had our support too. It looks like the
Zionists have learned the lessons from the short-comings of the Nazis.
Again, I show these pics because it is America who is financing and supplying this terrorism. I feel, as do many others, that the American people
would no longer support such things, if only they knew about them, instead of being fooled. Just as the American people looked at the Nazi actions
with disgust, so would they with the same tactics presented by Israel.
Because we can't count on the media to tell the whole truth, we have to do it through the grass-roots.
There many families, struggling to put food on the table, working two, three jobs just to pay taxes, yet their tax dollars are going to Israel, one of
the strongest economies in the world. Then, to know what's happening with those tax-dollars, just adds insult to injury. All of this terror is being
done in their names, yet they are being kept from truth.
Trust me, there are many things I would rather be doing. If America, my country, didn't back these terrorist acts, I probably would care so much.
Sure, I would care about all of the innocent life living in terror, but that happens in many other places. The hook for me, is that it is being done
in our name. At a time when Americans can't afford it, we are shelling out billions of dollars directly and even more indirectly for the twisted
terrorism of Israel. Then, our own security is called into question because of the terrorism being done in our name by Israel. Most Americans don't
know it, but Muslims hate our country because of our support for Israel.
"Our liberty cannot be guarded but by the freedom of the press, nor that be limited without danger of losing it." --Thomas Jefferson to John Jay,
I show these pictures because it is my duty, since the American media fails to do so.
"The most effectual engines for [pacifying a nation] are the public papers... [A despotic] government always [keeps] a kind of standing army of news
writers who, without any regard to truth or to what should be like truth, [invent] and put into the papers whatever might serve the ministers. This
suffices with the mass of the people who have no means of distinguishing the false from the true paragraphs of a newspaper." --Thomas Jefferson
I don't know if you've noticed, but you hardly show any of the hardships of the Israelis in this struggle.. This is what is missing (off the
top of my head):
Uh, there isn't much evidence or photos that display the hardships of the Israelis and most likely because there is little to none.
- Palestinian violence against settlers
Care to share any photos? Furthermore, they are illegal settlers. Also, if there was nearly the amount of violence to the illegal settlers, I'm sure
that there would be plenty of photos, but then again they are settling illegally and bullying the people that they steal land from.
If I move onto someone's land, abuse their children and terrorize them, I'd expect to have violence against me, well that is if I didn't have an
army backing me up.
- Palestinian shootings and sniping against settlers
Again, pics or it didn't happen. See above.
- Road mines and explosives used against soldiers and settlers
Again, see above.
- Israeli victims of mass lynchings
This one almost made me laugh. Any pictures or evidence to support such a claim?
- Israeli victims of rock throwing
- Damage of rock throwing to cars
- Size of rocks
- Age of throwers (Under 18 I can assure you that)
I don't doubt the rock throwing, however what do you expect them to do. Think for a minute and put aside any bias, what would you do if your people
were being terrorized every minute of every day? Would you just accept it, "yessah masta". That's what happens when you terrorize people, you get
rocks thrown at you, if of course that's all they have.
- Victims of terrorist bombings (The ones that survive are usually missing a few limbs)
I did put photos of the bombings, though as you can see, it really hails in comparison to the terrorist attacks happening everyday against the
- Roadblock bombings
- Methods used in those bombings
- Arab violence against Israeli citizens (if you really want to perpetuate the hate)
- Soldiers shot down by civilians with guns whom they didn't suspect
- Soldiers shot down by terrorists dressed in women's clothing
You are free to post any photos that you have. Until then, it doesn't jive.
- Children sent into battle to collect weapons off of dead bodies
That's probably the propaganda used to justify child murder. The Nazis did the same kind of thing.
- Children sent out with a gun in hand
Now this I can see. A child just watches his home demolished, sees his mom beat and his dad murdered, after the child suffers his whole life behind
Israeli terror. I don't think the child is being sent
out so much as he is being yoked
- Houses rigged around innocent families by terrorists
You mean the houses that the greedy and illegal settlers are stealing? Could you be talking about the homes of evicted Palestinian families?
- Terrorists standing behind civilians, shooting
Yeah, I posted those, you can clearly see the terrorists (IDF) standing behind civilians shootings. Might you have more?
- When kids are sent into a battle field so they can run into Israeli patrols and allow for an ambush they will be taken by the patrol and get
blindfolded and cuffed with plastic cuffs, they are usually placed at the back of the force as they would slow down a force, and might yell to inform
anyone of its location.
Kids aren't "sent" into the battlefield, rather it is the Zionists coming to the children. Remember, the Palestinians can't really go anywhere as
the Israelis hamper movement. If you send a shooter to a school yard, you can't really use the excuse that children were sent to the battlefield.
Nice try at the spin.
I get it though, you're not pro Israeli, why should you put any effort in making them look any better...
I'm not even being cynical, it's just the way it is..
I'll be the first to admit that I have a bias, just as anyone with a conscious would. It's hard not to have a bias against terrorism, oppression,
tyranny, genocide and abuse. Why would I try to make anyone lok "better"? I have done nothing to alter the pics, nor have I done anything to glorify
one side over the other. If one side looks worse than the other, it's probably because one side is worse than the other.