reply to post by AshleyD
Im sorry but the boots thing is not proof they were their to provoke anything at all. Undercover cops in a protest is common place done all around the
How does wearing boots, or proving their was undercover police in the crowds proof of provocation in Toronto at the G20?
The whole Quebec story is not the issue here, that story is here due to your error and has nothing to do with the G20 story we speak of, so please
explain to me where its proven the cops at the G20 in Toronto were there to provoke and it wasn't just idiot protesters being stupid and immature?
I don't see that proof anywhere, i see biased opinion based on past historical data in a completely different province with a completely different
police force that speaks another language entirely!
Quebec and Toronto are TWO seperate places, they are two places that are pretty much rivals too, so to lump them together and insinuate that "if
quebec police did it why not toronto?"
I was trying to connect the 2 but instead blended it all together and made the error of presenting past and present as the present.
Exactly, your taking two events and lumping them together. Your apologizing but you have not said: "there is no proof that the cops planted
undercover agents to provoke riots".
So, yes. There were provocateurs. Where I goofed is that I botched the presentation and made it appear to all be one incident when they were
actually 2 separate incidents.
Where is this proof you keep talking of? Ive seen the videos and nothing is proven. Your taking 2 minute clips or longer to judge an almost all day
event. That is taking things out of context and you are not looking at the big picture.
Even the police you obviously don't believe in are taking their time investigating this and trying to get to the bottom of who did wrong and who will
be punished, they are investigating themselves even. Any accusation a cop provoked a riot or violence is investigated and reported locally.
A lot of the stories that came out on day 1 and day 2, have since been dis-proven. Go to the official news sites for Canada, like CBC, CTV, Global and
see for yourself.
Maybe you can use those as source material for the next video where you explain that you were wrong and present the real facts as they stand today.
I am not angry, i am disappointed that people don't give the cops the benefit of the doubt in some cases. Its immediate finger-pointing and a lot of
insinuations based on partial facts.
Get the whole view of things, get all the facts, then present it as truth. otherwise, its an opinion piece and that should be mentioned in the
Another thing, humans are prone to mistakes, cops and protesters a like. To say the Police Departments planned to provoke the protesters is a big
accusation. One cops actions, that may not have been condoned by superiors is not proof the POLICE FORCE planned to be provokers as a whole. To say
otherwise is strictly opinion without facts.
[edit on 15-7-2010 by EspyderMan]