Race War 2010: New Black Panther Party declares war on Tea Party!

I never really gave the tea partiers much credence. They were just another group with a political bent.

The longer I watch people go waaaayy overboard to run them down and twist them up into something hateful (racists, bigots) the more I realize that they might have a point that could have been useful or even important.

The more hated a group in this day and age, the more incisive their message seems to be.

Nobody really seems to 'hate' the KKK or Black panthers because they are clearly the moste extreme in thought and idealism and obviously are an impotent and unrealistic minority in their message and are useless in general.

The tea partiers, on the other hand, never struck me as extreme or outspoken as most of their detractors but huge numbers of people come off as shrill, indignant and nearly desperate in their efforts to discredit them.

The extreme levels of desperately hateful rhetoric that are focused on the Tea Partiers is astounding.

Call me a contrarian but the most deliberately hateful people I've ever seen are the ones who want to keep things unfair in their own favor. These people seem to be the ones that hate the Tea party movement the most. Not the other way around.

reply to post by Misoir


If you don't like Obama and/or Illegal Immigration, you are a racist. That is the whole premise of the people who call the party people racist. Its pointless and somehow even more stupid than right vs. left arguments if such a thing is possible.

If you ask me its simply baseless slander worthy of a lawsuit, but for some reason those who actually buy into the racism claim seem to really believe that nonsense, so I don't know. I guess they are just gullible and will believe anything, so it wouldn't be any good suing someone who are not intelligent enough to see through propaganda even after you've given people a point-by-point explanation of how it isn't racist.

People like the MSNBC reporters should be sued, because there is no way they are so ignorant they could possibly think the tea party crowd is racist.

Those who say the tea party are racist are like those people who believe if you are a priest, you are probably a pedophile. Only they are worse because it seems like there is a real statistical trend of pedophile priest whereas there is no such trend of any known racism in the tea party. Its more or less worse than ignorance... its willful ignorance and a crappy attitude.

[edit on 12-7-2010 by truthquest]

If the Tea Party folks are smart like they were during the gathering in D.C for the health care vote and not take the bait, they'll make the new black panther's look like a bunch of wanna be thug idiots. Which shouldn't be too hard from what we've seen an heard of these panthers.
The only problem I see is the press, depending on how obama tells them to spin it.

Text Red It's stuff like this that makes me more and more of a racist every day. I'm not an outright kill them all racist by any means but I swear to god there are so many black racists around metro detroit and their "kill whitey" crap just ticks me off and makes me hate them.

I guess AIDS and crack didnt work so now the CIA is working with them? lovely

an update:::::::::

NAACP Considers Condemning Tea Party for 'Racism'

www.foxnews.com...

now we can add another player to the ballgame.

Man them politicians must be scared to death
that the tea party is gonna put them ALL in
the unemployment line. They're pullin out
all the stops. I wonder if the NAACP is gonna
be at the August Tea Party Rally too ????

I wonder how that's gonna work when you have
NAACP members IN the Tea Party ????


[edit on 13-7-2010 by boondock-saint]

The tone is certainly changing. Michelle's recent comments and finger pointing certainly don't help. Classic Alinsky tactic to demonize your biggest threat.

Funny, the New Black Panther movement is given carte blanche by this administration.

Just to warn you this does contain some racially bitter language. This is insane and MLK jr. would certainly not advocate this.




A little bit about the Deacons for Defense that is mentioned in the video.

The Deacons for Defense and Justice is an armed self defense African American civil rights organization in the U.S. Southern states during the 1960s. Historically, the organization practiced self-defense methods in the face of racist oppression that was carried out by Jim Crow Laws; local and state agencies; and the Ku Klux Klan. Many times the Deacons are not written about or cited when speaking of the Civil Rights Movement because their agenda of self-defense, in this case, using violence (if necessary) did not fit the image of strict non-violence agenda that leaders like Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. preached about the Civil Rights Movement. Yet, there has been a recent debate over the crucial role the Deacons and other lesser known militant organizations played on local levels throughout much of the rural South. Many times in these areas the Federal government did not always have complete control over to enforce such laws like the Civil Rights Act of 1964 or Voting Rights Act of 1965.

Currently, this group is "calling for arms" in black communities both mentally and physically through the second amendment.

en.wikipedia.org...

Originally posted by jibeho
The tone is certainly changing. Michelle's recent comments and finger pointing certainly don't help. Classic Alinsky tactic to demonize your biggest threat.
Funny, the New Black Panther movement is given carte blanche by this administration.
Currently, this group is "calling for arms" in black communities both mentally and physically through the second amendment.

en.wikipedia.org...


Man, I am so getting a major bad feeling about this. And to me, obama's not even hiding what he is anymore: When he said the "Police acted stupidly" when they detained his friend and ordering the charges dropped on the black panthers? And the press is still giving him a free ride. What would the reactions be if the rolls were reversed?
I can see a false flag at this Tea Party Rally if the black panthers an naacp show up. The Party folks won't do anything, but the plants obama/government'll have in place will.
This will in turn bring on his gun grab.
Anybody else feel this way? Never thought I'd see The Race war in my time, but obama seems to be turning us in that direction.

reply to post by Chance321


Obama campaigned as a bipartisan advocate of unity and he has done far more to divide this nation than anyone would have imagined. Not only are we clearly divided politically but he is driving the wedge racially with a blatant double standard that is frightening.

The blind eye is casting the biggest stare.

reply to post by jibeho


Right, he campaigned for "Change", only problem is nobody asked just what kind of change. We're starting to see it now. Everything he's done has been the reverse of what this country needs, everything he's done has been pulling us further an further down.

Originally posted by getreadyalready
reply to post by Lil Drummerboy

 

Yes you would....so would I. It doesn't matter what race or religion or anything else. If someone is threatening you, then you are obligated to defend yourself.

Unless you live in Chicago. Where it is a now a crime to defend yourself in your own home. If you use a gun to defend yourself against a intruder, you WILL be charged with premeditated 1st degree murder, since you bought the gun with the intent to shoot someone who attacks you.

Well duh??? What the hell are you supposed to do, allow some drugged up dipstick lowlife to come in and rape and pillage and offer him/her tea and crumpetts? "Why yes, you can rape my Wife, daughter, and dog, and help yourself to everything I have worked my whole life for, would that be one lump or two??" (In my house it would be the old commercial, "What do you want on your Tombstone?")

Originally posted by Ghost of Chewie
Unless you live in Chicago. Where it is a now a crime to defend yourself in your own home. If you use a gun to defend yourself against a intruder, you WILL be charged with premeditated 1st degree murder, since you bought the gun with the intent to shoot someone who attacks you.

Yeah, I can see that happening. The lawyers would put it like this. Breaking into someones home is their livelyhood their job. By you defending yourself an property your interfering in his job. How crazy is that? And that's not even touching on the If your white an he's black issue.

reply to post by Misoir


Christ, I sure hope so. That said, the whole "Black Panther" story has some serious holes in it. Not that I wouldn't smile at watching Tea Baggers running for their fat elderly lives on August 28th. Being from this planet, I just know better than to think that any such showdown is plenned by anyone but a few nutbags on this board and a dozen or so caffeinated armchair Tea Party heroes.

reply to post by Chance321


The "Black Panther" case was dismissed as a criminal investigation by the Bush Admin's DoJ. Before Obama came into office. The whole complaint was sketchy to begin with.

www.guardian.co.uk...

www.prospect.org...

[edit on 13-7-2010 by NorEaster]

Originally posted by dreamwalker74
reply to post by SaturnFX

 

Are you serious? "there are Black panthers who are not racist"? Thats like saying there are members of the Klan that are not racist. Their racism is what in fact gives them their identity. How many Black Panthers do you know? How many Tea Party activists? Unless you can give testimony based on personal experience and not MSM filters, do the research then return to post.

That doesn't matter, hell, if I go by personal testimony, I can honestly say I do not know face to face a republican whom isn't racist...I am of course in the deep south and surrounded by republican good ole boys...and yep, every single last one of them, my family included, use very colorful words when talking about anyone not white.

Does that mean by my personal experience with republicans that all republicans are racist? nope...but it does suggest to me most white racists are republican.

in regards to what the black panther's foundings are, it is simple...

The Black Panther Party (originally the Black Panther Party for Self-Defense) was an African-American revolutionary left-wing organization working for the self-defense for black people. It was active in the United States from the mid-1960s into the 1970s. The Black Panther Party achieved national and international impact through their deep involvement in the Black Power movement and in US politics of the 1960s and 70s, as the intense anti-racism of the time is today considered one of the most significant social, political and cultural currents in US history. The group's "provocative rhetoric, militant posture, and cultural and political flourishes permanently altered the contours of American Identity."[

It basically means they are a group that firmly states if you swing at a black for being black, they will most certainly swing back...this is rooted in a time when it was commonplace for blacks to be swung at. If you cannot comprehend why they would need a stand like that, then you are either not trying very hard to understand the whole concept, or just an idiot.

As far as who they are now...sure, a good mix of racists, highly empowered black men, and some that simply want equality without intimidation overtones.
The videos show, as usual, the extreme elements and their wonky slogans...in the same way the tea party movement show the white racists doing their contribution to the intellectual progression of society..both need to be wiped away.

reply to post by NorEaster


Sorry, it wasn't President Bush's DOJ that dropped the charges, but obama DOJ. www.mainjustice.com...


Adams quit his job with the Justice Department’s Voting Section earlier this year, citing the DOJ’s handling of a November 2008 incident at a Philadelphia polling place and its refusal to allow him to testify before the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights about it.

Two members of the anti-white fringe group stood outside the majority-black polling place in military-style garb, one of them holding a night stick.

Adams helped compile a civil voter intimidation lawsuit against the men, based on a rarely used section of the 1965 Voting Rights Act. But the Obama DOJ later dismissed the case against all but one defendant, citing a lack of a pattern of intimidation.


[edit on 13-7-2010 by Chance321]

I love how people get roped into these phony and inconsequential "political" fights one way or another.

I guess this is some good publicity for both camps. Membership may go up a bit, aspiring politicians or failing ones may add some support to get those desperately needed votes too. FOX News will of course be all over this kind of thing. Meanwhile America sinks further into troubled waters while we keep the same people in power that took us their. All the while convincing us that the real problem is our neighbor on the other side of town.

They gotta keep those "divisive" fires from going out otherwise we might just pay attention.

Reminds me of that Boondocks episode where Rev. Rallo Goodlove (Sharpton obviously) and Ann Coulter were fighting back and forth in the media over a race incident at a public school. After the cameras were done, they hung out like friends. Explaining that when one needs a "nemesis" to drum up publicity for a book or what have you, the other one plays the role.

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Oh yeah, they know the deal.
I wouldn't be surprised if both camps leaders aren't drinking tea together somewhere.

You however keep thinking they are on YOUR side though, don't you?

In a world that runs on perception rather than reality, a helluva lot of people get lead around by the nose so easily.

- Lee

Originally posted by jibeho
reply to post by Chance321

 

Obama campaigned as a bipartisan advocate of unity and he has done far more to divide this nation than anyone would have imagined..

Yes...Obama is totally dividing the country


totally not a right wing movement to make sure there is turmoil whatsoever...all obama's fault.


-edit: Obama broke my link

[edit on 13-7-2010 by SaturnFX]

yet another UPDATE:

Tea Party Preempts 'Racist' Resolution,
Condemns 'Bigoted' NAACP

www.foxnews.com...

geez, this is beginning to look like a soap opera

reply to post by SaturnFX


I've mentioned it on the other thread, but noone seems to have mentioned it here. And likelier still that noone actually cares.

But the New Black Panther Party and the Black Panther Party are 2 very different organizations with 2 very different ideologies.

The Black Panther Party has not been an official organization since the 70's, although many people still support the idea and movement.

The New Black Panther Party is an offshoot of the Nation of Islam. A group who believes that white people were created by a evil black scientist and that white people are inferior to black people. Their views are most assuredly rooted in hate and racism.

The New Black Panther Party only hijacked the Black Panther Party name to get the support of people who support that association, and think because of the similiar name they are infact the New Black Panther Party.

The New Black Panther Party, and the Nation of Islam are as much a racist group as the KKK.

Associating that name with the actual Black Panther Party would be the same as the KKK calling themselves the "New Founding Fathers Party". It would only hope to draw in people who thought they actually stood for anything the founding fathers did, much like the New Black Panther Party tries to convince people it has the same views and the Black Panther Party.

But the last thing they want, is equality and respect.

I'm tired of seeing one group be defamed by the actions of another, unrelated group.

Originally posted by Chance321
reply to post by NorEaster

 

Sorry, it wasn't President Bush's DOJ that dropped the charges, but obama DOJ. www.mainjustice.com...

He said that the choice not to file a criminal investigation was made by a Bush DOJ.

That is absolutely correct.
The case was downgraded by a Bush DOJ.

This happened 11 days BEFORE Obama was in office.
Please take some time and look it up. FOX doesn't care about facts.
If you quote stuff from them you will inevitably fail.

When Was The New Black Panther Case Downgraded?

From the testimony of Thomas Perez, head of the Civil Rights Division, before the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights in May:

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This means that the case was downgraded to a civil case 11 days before Obama was inaugurated, 26 days before Eric Holder became attorney general, and about nine months before Thomas Perez was confirmed as head of the Civil Rights Division.

Reality: Adams' accusations don't stand up to the facts

# The Bush administration’s Justice Department — not the Obama administration — made the decision not to pursue criminal charges against members of the New Black Panther Party for alleged voter intimidation at a polling center in Philadelphia in 2008;
Mediamatters.org

This is just a manufactured scandal that the Tea-Party wants in on.

- Lee