Originally posted by poedxsoldiervet
Originally posted by Proudconservative
So... all of the states that continue to define marriage as one man+one woman can still do so, and the federal government should stay out of it, right? So – wouldn't this prevent California's Proposition 8 from being struck down by a federal court? Or is this one of those funny one-way walls?
The LGBT community has shot themselves in the foot. You guys actually think of this as a victory? all this does is say that the FED GOV. has no right telling the STATES what marriage is. The states decide what marriage is.
I thought about this a little more and i realized that gay people still lose. Because like i said all this does is say that STATES decide what marriage is. That means if states like california ban or make a amendment against gay marriage,gay people cant go to the federal court and whine. BECAUSE STATES DECIDE. Gay people are idiots...can they not even look that far ahead? What are you gonna do about PROP 8 now? You cant challenge it federally. Because the FEDS hands are tied. If they tried to strike down PROP 8 and other bans and ammendments IT WOULD BE UNCONSTITUTIONAL.
Do you gay people here really think this is a victory? Maybe right NOW. But when even more states start filing ammendments to ban or not recognize same sex marriage what are you gonna do? what happens if those states that do have gay marriage RIGHT NOW gets it banned again? You cant whine to the FED....remember....there hands are tied. If they tried to do something it would unconstitutional.
What I find really funny is that none of the Gay Marriage supporters have answered or commented on your post... It’s true the Federal Judge just took the Federal Government out of the equation.
For you people out there who are not paying attention Marriage is NOT a Civil Right.. It is not defined in the US Constitution and 31 states have made it illegal for there to be gay marriage. Not be Gay, they can be gay and still vote, just can’t get married... I bet if they got rid of the marriage tax brackets people would shut the hell up.
OK here's a response. I suggest you read the opinion. A Judge, in one District out of the 94 in the US said that the Federal Congress had no business defining marriage, based on the principles of federalism and deference to the states. He said nothing about the application of the Equal Protection Clause of the 14th Amendment, which by its very terms applies to the states. "No state shall..." And the DOMA didn't ban gay marriage. It only defined marriage for purposes of federal programs. Likewise 31 states have not made same sex marriage illegal. They just refuse to recognize it. Two people from, say, Texas can go to Mass. and get married and return to Texas and face absolutely no penalties or sanctions.
The ruling only applies in one District out of the whole country. Of course, if the homophobes out there convince the government to appeal to the First Circuit Court of Appeals and the SCOTUS, it can become law for the whole country. Until then, it has no application to California or Hawaii or anywhere else. I don't think the closeted gay boys in bondage in the GOP who are screaming for an appeal have figured that out yet. Oh, please appeal. Right after you replace M. Steele with Palin.