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Originally posted by mooseinhisglory
Originally posted by Mobius1974
reply to post by this_is_who_we_are
Sniper training on the arizona broder starting Jan 2011.
i tried to resist saying something, but i was overwhelmed by my need to click the "quote" button...i know youre speaking in hyperbole and i get that...but come on. murder is far worse than illegal immigration. whether or not you hate these people like you do "everyone else," their lives should not be made into a violent joke just because of your politics. they are still human beings, and people do care about them back home. they could me mothers, fathers, sisters, brothers, daughters or sons of somebody.
cant we keep some civility and respect in the conversation, even if you have no respect for the people we are discussing?
Originally posted by brainwrek
reply to post by mooseinhisglory
Ever happen to think that some cultures only understand one thing?
Violence.
Nothing else has worked, nor will anything other than violence likely work to secure OUR border.
If it takes bodies lying in the desert to make sure our border is secure, then so be it.
Not the most agreeable of choices, but sometimes it is the only choice.
This is one of those cases.
Originally posted by daskakik
Originally posted by brainwrek
reply to post by mooseinhisglory
Ever happen to think that some cultures only understand one thing?
Violence.
Nothing else has worked, nor will anything other than violence likely work to secure OUR border.
If it takes bodies lying in the desert to make sure our border is secure, then so be it.
Not the most agreeable of choices, but sometimes it is the only choice.
This is one of those cases.
You make it sound like anything has ever really been done to secure the border.
I hate reading people say that they should stay in their country and work on fixing it when US citizens are being ignored by their own government. Why don't you get your government to actually work for you and not corporate interests? Get them to actually secure the border.
But to be on topic. It's only a warning. If you get the wall, mine field, snipers and or electric fence in place would you still throw a fit if someone publishes something telling the would be illegals that they run the risk of being hurt and/or killed if they try crossing the border? Most who offer up this type of solution even throw in warning signs. Well how's this different?
Originally posted by Mobius1974
I mean no disrespect from this .....
What in the hell was that last paragraph supposed to say?? Read it again.. It makes zero sense!
I am going to assume that I know what it said..
Are you asking if i would be mad, if the world was informed that we were sniping illegals crossing the border???? Hell, I would run the ad on international TV myself ... talk about a good deterent!!!
I might throw in some lies about lions and gators being placed on the border!
I would tell the middle eastern immigrants that we are force feeding pork to those caught crossing illegally!!!!
Originally posted by this_is_who_we_are
Originally posted by Mobius1974
reply to post by this_is_who_we_are
It wasn't thinly veiled!!! I am very clear and very serious!! Make a sweeping statement that we are fed up and the crap is about to hit the fan.. Give them 1 to 2 weeks to get out.. Make bus stops available to get to the border!!! The ones that wont go on their own, get em all rounded up and GONE..If you didnt leave on your own.. You and immediate family are banned for 50 years.
Then, secure our borders.. Build a Wall (high voltage) 250k volts will do it. Then have sniper towers at every 1/4 mileGive 2 warning shots than blow their butt away!!!!
Like I said, I'm not pro illegal immigration. If what you propose could be done, let's do it. If you're not here legally, whether Hispanic or Icelandic... time to go.
But let's not set a precident that could take away the rights of legitimate Americans.
As for the wall... too obviously the wrong way to go. Need I point out Gemany. I mean, really...
I know they are going to put their slant on it but in the end it's only a warning of what is being done.
Originally posted by brainwrek
reply to post by mooseinhisglory
Really? Think youre going to walk through a village under siege in Afghanistan or Nigeria and solve things diplomatically without threats or violent actions? Absolutely not.
Originally posted by brainwrek
reply to post by mooseinhisglory
Stop living in a pacifistic fantasyland.
Originally posted by brainwrek
reply to post by mooseinhisglory
Is the future of the United States worth fighting a war for? Of course it is.
The future of the U.S. is dependent upon a secure border.
[edit on 1-7-2010 by brainwrek]
Originally posted by Mobius1974
reply to post by daskakik
Do me a favor.. I mean to be disrespectful now... Go back through my posts..
Point out where I said i had a problem with them notifying people... Point out where I said ONE WORD about them notifying people!
Originally posted by daskakik
Originally posted by Mobius1974
reply to post by daskakik
Do me a favor.. I mean to be disrespectful now... Go back through my posts..
Point out where I said i had a problem with them notifying people... Point out where I said ONE WORD about them notifying people!
But that is what the OP is about.
"ACLU issues travel alerts for Arizona"
And your on here throwing a fit.
Originally posted by Mobius1974
Slant?? Wow see the blind direction you took.. You didnt agree with my posts .. So you assumed that I didnt agree with the notification..
Originally posted by Mobius1974
reply to post by daskakik
Read my post 4 posts up i edited it... Special just for you!
I think the idea is grand!!!! Arizona is THANKING the ACLU behind closed doors.. keep making Arizona look awful for illegals... You are helping them more than you can imagine!
[edit on 1-7-2010 by Mobius1974] [/quote
you are probably totally right, lol. didnt even think of it that way.