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Originally posted by C0bzz
I have used every Windows and Mac release for the past decade. I have also tried Linux. My own experience has shown that Linux is without a doubt the WORST operating system for the average user. We've heard all the Linux people shouting how great it is a million times. Here's a message to these people. WE DON'T CARE. If we liked Linux WE WOULD USE IT. Using Linux isn't go to stop us from using electronics with tantalum (etc) either.
Alas, buying products from China helps fuel their economy which helps raise millions out of deadly subsistence farming.
Go live in the land of the free - Africa - then, and see how much you enjoy it.
How predictable. I suggest you try again with an argument that hasn't been used over 9000 times on this website.
Cocaine is a hell of a drug.
One person can't right the wrongs in the world, several thousand can't, etc. Everytime something like this is posted, you can't do anything about it.
Baloney. There have been plenty of well known and successful political activism moments that have been more or less started by a few people inside their living rooms. Get enough support and then you push for legislation that prohibits conflict materials. Or create a stamp or certification that guarantees products are conflict mineral free (similar to efficiency standards like 80 PLUS). If there was a such a thing then I would definitely only buy products with this assurance. It's great most people in the world don't have your opinion because if they did then we would still be in the stone age.
Originally posted by jaynkeel
It is stories like these that further my belief that perhaps there is no god. Well no god as described in the bible, caring, wise, thoughtful. Because if there was an he let this madness go on in this world like what we hear and witness day in and out then he must be one messed up dude to sit by and watch this cruel treatment of human beings.
Originally posted by consigliere
reply to post by buddhasystem
anything beyond need becomes greed,,i
Originally posted by consigliere
reply to post by buddhasystem
Why is a personal boycott @$$ backwards?
and who the hell needs a blackberry????
anything beyond need becomes greed,,i just try to keep my desires in check
Originally posted by ~Lucidity
Thanks for this reminder. Lve the way they're getting this message out.
It's valuable focus for us all. An old friend of mine I've lost touch with left IBM over 10 years ago after 15 years for this very reason. The way it came about for her was through her studies as a Jehovah's Witness and the way she put it at the time was something like, "they participate in the annihilation of people and I cannot in good conscience support or profit from this through any of my actions."
She convinced me too. I don't want the money of companies who support the war machine, and they're not getting mine.. Every time I've taken a job or project since, I consider this. It's very helpful to have a list.
I think it matters...the little actions we take. It may not seem like a big thing to do or like it matters, but if enough people did it...they would find that ways do exist to boycott the "machine" of modern day computers.
[edit on 27-6-2010 by ~Lucidity]
Originally posted by silo13
Wow.
I had no idea.
Here I thought I was doing good, lol.
I subscribe to living the 'less is more' lifestyle.
Sold my car and live where I can walk to the store or I don't go (for the most part).
I don't wear gold or silver (anymore).
No TV.
I don't eat meat I didn't raise and butcher myself and 90% in total of the fruit and veggies I do eat, I raise myself - with no pesticides, etc...
I drink only water and water with real fruit juice mixed in, no sugar...
Ok you got the idea, I wont bore you with more details...
Point being - What did I 'keep' in my life I thought was harmless?
My computer.
Ugh. Ya just can't win can you...
peace
[edit on 28-6-2010 by silo13]
Originally posted by Solasis
Originally posted by pavelivanov22
Apple is no better than Microsoft they just want your money more
[edit on 27-6-2010 by pavelivanov22]
Actually, they want your money exactly as eagerly as Microsoft does. Which has nothing to do with the topic at hand.
It's sick the way that our society rides on the backs of the impoverished and underprivileged in other nations. Something needs to be done about this. Grassrootsish campaigns like this can only do so much, though, and I can't really boycott my computer.
Most people who turn away from linux with that attitude are not savvy enough with computers to understand the beauty of the OS. Your poor experience with linux was likely to be a problem we call PEBKAC. The truth is Linux/Unix is superior to Windows(mac is unix based.) in every way, it just requires a bit more understanding than a simple start menu junkie has.
That's wrong too. If the Chinese stopped exporting and changed their economy to produce goods for the Chinese people, they would be able to use the resources on themselves, not on the west. When America had a strong economy it was producing stuff for itself, and exporting a bit. When we turned into a consumerist nation based off of service, we began an economic decline that we will never recover from.
Ironically I have friends that are migrating to Africa, buying cheap land, cheap automatic weapons, and farming/ranching, they love it.
Why? It's a strong argument, its hard to argue against it.
Ok, show me one example of a real cases where a few guys accomplished anything good politically as just a few individuals? Ron Paul? In fact, it seems to be the opposite where it takes a giant mob of gun toting rednecks or flag burning hippies to get anything to happen.
If people had the mindset of the guy you just bashed, we would not be living in the stone0age, we would be living in a more civilized age. If technology is going to mean that we must kill each other over each others rocks, then screw it, id rather cook over a campfire.
One person can't right the wrongs in the world, several thousand can't, etc. Everytime something like this is posted, you can't do anything about it.
Originally posted by C0bzz
Looks like an incredibly weak cliche argument to me. Look at the amount of stars it got.
Linux is not a solution and suggesting that it is is probably one of the dumbest things i have heard. Say i buy a diamond ring with a conflict diamond in it, now lets say i destroy the ring part of it and use a string instead and wear a conflict diamond around my finger with a string. That is what using linux is. When you buy a computer (or build one) it has lets just say (and this is a made up number) 5 grams of conflict minerals. Now you either install linux or take windows/osx off of it and put linux on it. Your computer still has 5 grams of conflict minerals... And lets face it many "linux" users secretly use windows when nobody is looking. Because by the time linux supports all of the hardware you have in your computer it is obsolete and its off to buy some more conflict minerals. The biggest advance linux has made so far has been wine, which is just a really crappy way of running microsoft crap on your linux machine, so like the mac crowd linux users will jump through hoops to get their computers to run windows applications but ask any of them "if linux is so much better why go through all the trouble of putting windows stuff on it?". It is the same as boasting about how much better your honda is than your friends ford after you removed the honda engine and put a ford one in. The only thing i know of that linux is good for is that is pretty much the best form of birth control around and people who use it have an ability to grow linux beards almost overnight.
tin, tungsten, tantalum, and gold. Many of these same conflict minerals end up in our own electronic devices such as cell phones, laptops, and digital cameras.
Originally posted by silo13
Wow.
I had no idea.
Here I thought I was doing good, lol.
I subscribe to living the 'less is more' lifestyle.
Sold my car and live where I can walk to the store or I don't go (for the most part).
I don't wear gold or silver (anymore).
No TV.
I don't eat meat I didn't raise and butcher myself and 90% in total of the fruit and veggies I do eat, I raise myself - with no pesticides, etc...
I drink only water and water with real fruit juice mixed in, no sugar...
Ok you got the idea, I wont bore you with more details...
Point being - What did I 'keep' in my life I thought was harmless?
My computer.
Ugh. Ya just can't win can you...
peace
[edit on 28-6-2010 by silo13]