An email from a "BP Insider" -- Possible Conspiracies Are Numerous

The Black Plume seems, as well, curiously linked to the Wall Street debacle and recession. After 30 years of "the government is the problem" ideology, we should not be surprised that no respected or adequately resourced arm of government is effectively watching over the corporations.

www.oil-price.net...

Well, the email starts out as a great synopsis for a script titled "The Abyss II" or "Sphere II" ...

Then the guy lost me with that whole, destroy the gulf so we can drill 2 more wells theory.

I call BS. But if the guy is a credible source, I would say stick to reporting what you know for sure, and leave the theories to more seasoned conspiracy theorists

Here's a theory I had while waiting for the storms to quit:

BP turns the gulf into a giant, sticky, oily mess (as per the roders they were given). Mess ends up 'too big to contain'.....

The oil aerosol 'izes' into the atmosphere (pick any way you want how it does- evaporation, hurricanes, ect), to a concentration that if a big enough boom were to happen...

Nuclear war is declared. Someone nukes someone else, then a few others do some nuking...

The explosive force of the nukes actually *sets fire* the the oil dispersed in the air, which manages to catch the atmosphere on fire to a certain extent...

The elite retire to their bunkers for a minute, the world is cleansed by fire, all the undesirables are basically char broiled, and the elite bounce back out, and rule their kingdom.

I smell depopulation, ethnic cleansing on a massive scale, and (I am going by the elite's logic here, not mine) perfection as they plant and start the world back over.

This truly 'tinfoil hat' moment was brought to you by... Me! I'll be here all week, tip your waitress on the way out.

reply to post by Just Wondering


Again thanks for your reply. Out of curiousity I checked one site (The Motley Fool) to see what they were saying about a BP "buy".
Some interesting comments from that article by Matt Koppenheffer June 2nd article included:
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"With that in mind, what should we make of BP's stock? At the end of yesterday's trading session, BP's stock had fallen by nearly 40% since the Deepwater Horizon oil rig explosion on April 20. The stock currently changes hands at 3.4 times BP's trailing EBITDA, as compared with 4.7, 5.4, and 5.0, respectively, for ConocoPhillips (NYSE: COP), ExxonMobil (NYSE: XOM), and Shell. And at least on a trailing basis, BP's stock yields a massive 9% dividend."
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And this because it explains the total ownership/all potential liability partners of the well:
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"Estimates on how much the spill will cost vary greatly, ranging from lowball numbers in the $3 billion range all the way up to $25 billion or even $30 billion. When considering these hefty tabs, though, investors need to remember that BP has only a 65% interest in the oil field, with Anadarko Petroleum (NYSE: APC) and Mitsui owning the rest. Driller Transocean (NYSE: RIG), services provider Halliburton (NYSE: HAL), and blowout-preventer manufacturer Cameron International (NYSE: CAM) may also end up on the hook for part of the costs."
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This because it reminds people of the potential risks:
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"And maybe most importantly, it's still unclear whether BP did make legitimately bad, or even potentially criminal, decisions before the explosion. If the just-announced federal investigation finds a smoking gun of negligent behavior, we could be talking worst-case scenarios."
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This because it the author is being upfront in his assessment,
even if he is wrong in my opinion, about BP being a compelling opportunity.
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"As there are significant uncertainties involved here, there's always the possibility that I'll end up with a foot in my mouth, but at this point BP's stock looks like a pretty compelling opportunity to me."
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Do I own any stock in BP or any other oil companies at this time? No. I agree with the comment made by one poster in particular on that site, regarding reasons for not purchasing BP stock, (other than for obvious reasons like the company's long list of past violations, and disregard for safety, and their current handling/coverups involving the Gulf spill. etc.) which is below:
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"Buying BP right now is like playing Russian Roulette and not knowing how many shells are in the chamber. We have no idea how massive the ongoing ecological disaster may turn out to be, but we DO know that a heckuva lot more voters live on and around the Gulf Coast, in comparison to Alaska. Once you bring Florida and possibly even the Atlantic coastline into the equation, BP's massive balance sheet could begin to look like a raindrop in an ocean of oil. We're not just talking about horrific environmental aesthetics - this will mean lost jobs and higher consumer prices. Maybe the damage will be limited and BP will eventually emerge as a highly profitable company, but I wouldn't bet my farm on it."

"I suspect it's a lot more likely that anyone who thinks this is just a great buying opportunity for BP could end up face-planting into a brick wall..."

Source: www.fool.com...









[edit on 14-6-2010 by manta78]

reply to post by SkepticOverlord


Let us realize what happened here. BP ignored its own employees, safety officials, and experts to make more money in the short run... very short-sighted and as a result we have a immeasurable disaster. What makes this even worse is we have a government and administration that ignores it people, constitution and experts to make more money in the short run.... very short-sighted and as a result we are in a recession, at least 2 wars, and are most likely headed towards an immeasurable crisis on several fronts.

What does this mean... our government is no longer a government but a corporation... a big, growing, and greedy corporation.

Way to go you greedy FVCKS!!! Burn in hell!!

Not proof but I have serious doubts about the email because of the use of 'Marshall" instead of martial.

That's my 2 cents. Serious doubts.

Originally posted by EarthCitizen07


Your close but the british royal family is not as powerful as most think.

Always follow the money and it was mayer amschel rothschild who said "give me control of a nation's money and I care not who makes her laws."

I used to think the same thing… The nobles merged with the merchant bankers “the commoners” to coordinate power and use their expertise to exploit wealth from conquered nations for the empire while the merchant bankers used the nobles to utilize their military might to gain access to the wealth of nations yet to be conquered. They’ve been inter breeding ever since so you are right but only partially.

The Queen reigns over 32 countries and is Commander & Chief (through her representatives the Governor Generals) of all their militaries. If you add in the whole commonwealth the Queen has stately influence of 9.9 billion acres, or a little over one quarter of the planet, but she has absolute reign in 32 countries and territories which include the UK and all of its territories and dependencies: Australia, Canada, New Zealand, and 28 other countries and territories. At 6.7 billion acres (three times the land area of the United states), she is the world’s single largest landowner at 80% of all the land that’s owned by the 26 largest landowners. The next 2 largest landowners are King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia (580 million acres) and the Pope (177 million acres).

Don’t let that little old lady miss little Bo Peep appearance fool ya… That woman can take out half the population of the United States over tea and crumpets.




[edit on 14-6-2010 by soleprobe]

From an article a couple of weeks BEFORE the Oil rig explosion!

Just a coincidence that this article is talking about the potential damage from Methane dissociation in the Gulf of Mexico! Just a a coincidence that it was expecting a hotter than normal year in the Gulf, and now the Gulf is at record temperatures!

"Methane Hydrate is 23 times more powerful a greenhouse gas than C02 and represents an unimaginable 10% of the entire biomass of the planet. Much of it buried in the frozen Tundra of Alaska and the Artic lakes region of Siberia, which by itself contains an estimated 70 billion tons of methane. There are countless more giga tons of methane located in the shallow seas around the world like in the Gulf of Mexico and off the coast of Calif. and Louisiana just waiting for warmer temperatures to melt the lattice ice crystals that holds the methane molecules safely in place. Once released, if the disassociation is large enough, it will have an immediate impact on temperature sending it soaring another 3 to 10 degrees higher than the scientists are predicting.

"The increased temperature would kill off the one-cell organisms that create oxygen in the oceans, as they will not be able to form the hard outer shell that allows them to survive. As they die off the oceans will become more acidic, void of enough oxygen to support marine life, the coral reefs, the incubator for most marine life, will die off from excessive heat. The oceans will become one huge dead zone. It has happened before.

"Both methane disassociation in the lakes region of Siberia and oceanic acidification appear to be happening now and are likely to increase as our C02 emissions continue to rise. For the first time in over a decade they have detected 27 million more tons of methane escaping into the atmosphere mostly from the Lakes region of Siberia a 58% to 63% increase 3 years in row now. The oceans are becoming more acidic as they try to absorb more and more of our carbon dioxide emissions. There are now over 250 documented dead zones covering all of the oceans of the world.

www.foxbusiness.com...

reply to post by manta78
Thanks for the excellent info.
Don't forget that there is still that $75M cap b law, also BP has already volunteered an extra $25M on their own, they are not just gonna sit back and let that law go without a fight.
I do know that it is a risky investment but I can take the hit. I am hoping the ROI is worth the risk.

I'm just wondering what rhythmic non.natural seismic data could be. two relief wells extracting something else them oil could easily be profitable. And from the bright brains i met in my life quite a few with dyslexia. if you ever could be a fan of a forum i can understand that you would mail them to make your info available to people you respect. in an adrenaline rush you don't really write what you've wanted to write, like wou would have done in rest. especially when you are not educated to present information. it doesn't mean i totally belief this mail or for that matter disbelief this mail. it is just an opinion to counter the opinions that are convinced it is a hoax. tricksters no the ways of bodylanguage and textformats and use them. i personally had the gut feeling to, not this is it, but this is huge to humanity in general, what we will see developing in the coming future. i think they were trying to screw us but instead screwed up


Posted Via ATS Mobile: m.abovetopsecret.com

Why would blowing the old well be needed ? And how can the multi billions damages that it will cause can be paid back so easily ?

It was deliberate. There's no question about it.

You need to read this thread, or look at the links that was posted in it. This will paint you the picture you all so desire.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Soon, I will be posting my final thread on ATS, and it will illuminate everything that you ALL need to know. It will be the last time I ever post anything to ATS again.

And I want to say right now...I'm sorry that this happened and greed won out against us. However, stay strong and have no fear. This will all be rectified by the TRUE powers that be very shortly.

You all have been great.

As hurricane season is approaching. Do you think the martial law will be effective around the time a hurricane is moving in to make it look like "they are evacuating people" for their own safety...

Originally posted by wylekat
Here's a theory I had while waiting for the storms to quit:

BP turns the gulf into a giant, sticky, oily mess (as per the roders they were given). Mess ends up 'too big to contain'.....

The oil aerosol 'izes' into the atmosphere (pick any way you want how it does- evaporation, hurricanes, ect), to a concentration that if a big enough boom were to happen...

Nuclear war is declared. Someone nukes someone else, then a few others do some nuking...

The explosive force of the nukes actually *sets fire* the the oil dispersed in the air, which manages to catch the atmosphere on fire to a certain extent...

The elite retire to their bunkers for a minute, the world is cleansed by fire, all the undesirables are basically char broiled, and the elite bounce back out, and rule their kingdom.

I smell depopulation, ethnic cleansing on a massive scale, and (I am going by the elite's logic here, not mine) perfection as they plant and start the world back over.

This truly 'tinfoil hat' moment was brought to you by... Me! I'll be here all week, tip your waitress on the way out.

I don't think your tinfoil hat moment was too far off. The note may well be ligit, but how much does this person really know? He may be one of those who TPTB knew he liked ATS so they hyped him up for a report.
Then again:
The Martial Law thing keeps creeping up and ever since this www.washingtonpost.com...
I've been skeptical of anything that may lead to mass death on a global scale. Also, does the Gulf of Mexico look like a caldera to you guys? Here's a theory - suppose they were building a relief well for Yellowstone? I know it is some distance away, but magma travels a great distance down there. Oh and Yellowstone was reported in the red not long ago....
Just some things to consider that's all.

reply to post by EvolvedMinistry


Where will your last post be? The other thread? Don't leave us hanging! Don't go!

Originally posted by EvolvedMinistry
It was deliberate. There's no question about it.

You need to read this thread, or look at the links that was posted in it. This will paint you the picture you all so desire.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Soon, I will be posting my final thread on ATS, and it will illuminate everything that you ALL need to know. It will be the last time I ever post anything to ATS again.

And I want to say right now...I'm sorry that this happened and greed won out against us. However, stay strong and have no fear. This will all be rectified by the TRUE powers that be very shortly.

You all have been great.

Dude when and could you U2U me? What's your skinny here? I'm seeing code.....

Originally posted by EvolvedMinistry
It was deliberate. There's no question about it.

You need to read this thread, or look at the links that was posted in it. This will paint you the picture you all so desire.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Soon, I will be posting my final thread on ATS, and it will illuminate everything that you ALL need to know. It will be the last time I ever post anything to ATS again.

And I want to say right now...I'm sorry that this happened and greed won out against us. However, stay strong and have no fear. This will all be rectified by the TRUE powers that be very shortly.

You all have been great.

Dude when and could you U2U me? What's your skinny here? I'm seeing code.....

Originally posted by EvolvedMinistry
It was deliberate. There's no question about it.

You need to read this thread, or look at the links that was posted in it. This will paint you the picture you all so desire.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Soon, I will be posting my final thread on ATS, and it will illuminate everything that you ALL need to know. It will be the last time I ever post anything to ATS again.

And I want to say right now...I'm sorry that this happened and greed won out against us. However, stay strong and have no fear. This will all be rectified by the TRUE powers that be very shortly.

You all have been great.

Dude when and could you U2U me? What's your skinny here? I'm seeing code.....

Accidental repeat. OP please remove excess.

[edit on 14-6-2010 by DaWhiz]

he says he is a "bp field sup"
Well if he is concerned for his well being and did not want to let anyone know the orgin of the e-mail, then why even tell us your title.
If anything he says is true, and the Military is taking over, then the easiest thing to do is to take all the "sup" personnel and replace them because of a lack of trust...

So right there I question its validity; however, I do not doubt there is a lot of crazy things going on that allow many to be concerned.

Originally posted by vesta


I have done nothing but think about this horrendous oil leak..........

A very interesting email - Was a little concerned with the below :


"also something happening about 100 miles southeast of the rig site with several navy and uscg ships. And Friday two serious looking guys arrive and started directing our sup. Apparently they showed Navy Intelligence ID when they arrived along with a dozen commando looking guys".

What on earth could this be about???

Well the only thing I can comment on that...and considering that the originator of the email seemed to be speculating as to the identity of the "Navy Intelligence" guys flashing ID's...all I can do is at best is speculate as well, that being....

I did 20 years US Navy (retired last June so I am recent per se), and I had done work both in and outside the military in intelligence related commands/operations (I had been hired to do a small contract with Lockheed supporting a J2 intelligence directorate somewhere doing somethings and that's all I will say about that), but anyways...the US Navy DOES indeed have intelligence specialists as well as officers, HOWEVER they do NOT flash badges/id's as that is only movies and even then they are usually Navy JAG officers or NCIS (Naval Criminal Investigative Services).

HOWEVER...if they were intel...AND military intel then they would have most likely been DIA agents...yes exactly like the civilian agency but defense instead. Based off of my past operational experiences of having worked with DIA...I DO NOT see them performing any kind of roll in this...EVEN WITH dude saying that BP might have deliberately caused this to happen because if it isn't a military/DoD operation/intel affecting or including DoD or DoD assets...I don't see the DIA having anything to do with this. No reason to.

NOW CIA ON THE OTHER HAND....well boys your all's guess is as good as mine as far as that is concerned ;-) Oh and for the record right here and right now...YES I have done work with above mentioned agencies in the past, but understand that I was attached to joint special operations command with multiple Middle Eastern deployments and had worked with them in the field. My Lockheed work was more systems engineer related then anything else, so I AM NOT A DISINFO AGENT, NOR WOULD I EVER BE ONE as I am as pissed off about a lot of #, and am in search of the truth like many others. My security clearance is SCI....i.e. compartmentalized, so I am just as in the dark as much as the next guy on here.

Just want to throw that disclaimer out there before people start trippin or something lol. Not sure if I even contributed anything right there anyways...just saying that I doubt they were "Navy Intelligence" that's all ;-)