An email from a "BP Insider" -- Possible Conspiracies Are Numerous

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posted on Jun, 14 2010 @ 02:40 PM
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Odder still is that the site itself is for The Yes Men who are a satirical protest performance art collective. For years, their main focus has been messing with the WTO. It looks like they have set their sites on the scumbags responsible for the current clusterfornication in the gulf.



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posted on Jun, 14 2010 @ 02:40 PM
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FAIL #1
"I'm a field sup pulled off a BP rig in the gulf"
BP doesn't own any "rigs" in the gulf, they own platforms and TLP's, A "field supervisor" is an Production Operator and reffer to themselves as "Lead Operators" and these guys are not office types that would be "pulled" to do P.R. work.

FAIL #2
"I'm a couple hours away from reporting to a security briefing along with many others, and then to what they are saying"
The only way this "field supervisor" would be involved in such a high level meeting would be if he was a drilling expert or If he was involved in the incident on the Horizon from day one. Besides this sentence doesn't even make sense.

FAIL #3
"...are talking that something or someone was at the bop and either deliberately caused the blowout or made a grave error that caused the bop to malfunction when the inevitable blowout happened. "
Wut?!?! This sentence right here speaks VOLUMES as to how little this guy's knowledge of drilling operations is.

FAIL #4
"Rumor is that now they're going to call marshall law and all of us will be prevented from leaving the ships to see our families. Things are going from really bad to crazy. "
Seriously, does this guy's spelling, grammar and syntex give you any confidence in having him be your liaison to the press? I know my limitations and I know my vocabulary is not up to that challenge. BP can employ the best of the best why make this idiot your liaison with the press?

FAIL #5
"Nearly everyone here is of the belief that the blowout was planned as a way to destroy a well that had too many problems to be ultimately profitable, and get two new wells drilled (the relief wells) that will be wildly profitable and the only way to do that was destroy this one. We calculated that even with paying cleanup costs the profit on two wells in this reserve will far outweigh the costs in less than a year. "
I got an idea, instead of blowing up this well, why not just plug and abandon this well and apply to drill two more wells? According to the MSM and the Obama cabinet, the MMS was in bed with BP anyway, they could have just wine and dined them, given them some porn and voila! two ne wells approved. Alot cheaper than what this is gonna cost them. They also said that they were the ones that forced BP to drill the second well.

FAIL #6
"And Im sorry I can't give you my email as I'm concerned for what might happen if this disclosure is traced back to me
Give me his IP and I will trace it to his front door. If he was smart (which he isn't) he would have sent this from a library computer or a starbucks.

This guy is a troll and he successfully trolled ATS.


[edit on 14-6-2010 by Just Wondering]



posted on Jun, 14 2010 @ 02:41 PM
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Rumor is that now they're going to call marshall law and all of us will be prevented from leaving the ships to see our families.


For the record, I think all discussion of Marshal Law, FEMA camps, and Evacuations are ridiculous. The situation is dire, and the economy of the Gulf Region along with the loss of beaches, fishing, tourism, tax revenue, and recreation will take care of the evacuation all on its own. There will be plenty of "voluntary" evacuation as the Gulf Coast bankrupts and dies.

Now, the quote from the OP sounds more like the workers will be sequestered from communication, so that emails like his do not get out to sites like this. That part I believe, especially since they already did it to the workers that were rescued from the rig in the first place.



posted on Jun, 14 2010 @ 02:41 PM
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The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.

I would speculate that blowing the one big well would relieve enough pressure to drill two productive wells. The big well is really the relief well for the productive ones to be drilled after enough pressure has escaped the cavity.

As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.



posted on Jun, 14 2010 @ 02:44 PM
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All these leaks point to the same motive and the same culprit... Greed... intentional because of greed ...before it was incompetence because of greed now it's intentional because of greed.... and points the fingers directly at BP....

The result is always the same.... The American people stand down because even though they now may think it was deliberate... the motive was greed so damaging activity will seize and investigations will eventually proceed

Now if the motive was not greed but a deliberate act of war to take down the US and put them into martial law, then the people wouldn't stand down and they would resist immediately with as much force as possible. So this could be just dissinfo to keep Americans compliant until it's TOO LATE


[edit on 14-6-2010 by soleprobe]



posted on Jun, 14 2010 @ 02:48 PM
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cant say much about this e-mail
but I can say what I see and hear
and right now there have been at least
6 fighter jets pass over my house today
heading south toward the oil spill.
They were moving at incredible speed.
Looks like they were in a real hurry.
They were so low and fast, they rattled
the dishes and windows.



posted on Jun, 14 2010 @ 02:49 PM
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Originally posted by fleabit
So, they did this to open two "more profitable" wells?

How could any other well be more profitable than one the size of Mount Everest? I could see trying to open additional wells, but one would guess this one would have lasted for many, many years. That doesn't make a lot of sense to me.


Well, if they were behind schedule, and "company men" as they have been called were flown to the site, approved the jamming of the pipe into the ground absent any mud or safety precaution, and they hit the reservoir in a short time frame as opposed to drilling new wells. Then they have confirmation of the reserve, its pressure, and its location. Now, they may or may not have blown it on purpose, but they knew the risks, and they weighed them. Here is how I imagine it went:

1. We are $23M behind on this operation, someone get down there and fix it!
2. If we continue along the current procedure, we could lose another $100M before we even know if we have an active reserve.
3. Our cap on damages is $75M if we lose the rig or damage the environment.
4. Lets jam it in, hopefully we hit the reserve without damage, and we will be heros!
5. If we don't hit any oil, we have saved the company a bunch of money and we will be heroes!
6. If we hit oil, but we have a dangerous blow out, we will have confirmed the reserve, we'll drill two new cheaper higher production wells in a short period of time with our new knowledge, we'll pay the $75M, and we'll still be heroes!!



posted on Jun, 14 2010 @ 02:50 PM
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After the speech by Obama today I think everything we need to know about this has been answered especially after he called this the 'environmental 9/11'



"In the same way that our view of our vulnerabilities and our foreign policy was shaped profoundly by 9/11, I think this disaster is going to shape how we think about the environment and energy for many years to come," he said in the Politico interview.

news.bbc.co.uk...


What better way for shareholders in cleantech to make money than by instigating something like this? Only through doing something like this and destroying beaches along a whole coast of the USA could they really get the American people on board for wanting to pursue cleantech further.

With this disaster any legislation that needs to be passed Obama will be laughing, the strangulated grip of oil money on congress will most definitely have been weakened enough by this for hard changes to be made.



posted on Jun, 14 2010 @ 02:52 PM
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The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.

Cost of Clean up to BP:

BP oil spill clean-up costs could total $6bn

BP's Yearly Revenue:

All amounts in millions except per share amounts
BPs Annual Income Statement(MarketWatch)


This means that they could triple the cost of the oil spill and still not be hurt too much, and a producing well would, in fact, cover this.

As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.


[edit on 14-6-2010 by projectvxn]



posted on Jun, 14 2010 @ 02:56 PM
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news.bbc.co.uk...


" Obama said.
Continue reading the main story BBC special coverage graphic

This week, the BBC is assessing the impact of the Louisiana oil spill. Correspondents in the US, the Gulf of Mexico, Brazil, Nigeria and London will be reporting for the BBC World Service, World News TV and the BBC News website.
Full coverage of the oil disaster

Earlier, he said the ongoing oil spill would change the way the US thinks about energy forever - comparing the effect of the disaster on the environment to the way 9/11 shaped US security policy.

In Monday's statement, the president was clear about the need for changes to energy policy.

"Beyond the risks inherent in drilling four miles beneath the surface of the Earth, our dependence on oil means that we will continue to send billions of dollars of our hard-earned wealth to other countries every month - including many in dangerous and unstable regions," he said.

"In other words, our continued dependence on fossil fuels will jeopardise our national security. It will smother our planet. And it will continue to put our economy and our environment at risk.

"We cannot delay any longer, and that is why I am asking for your help. "

My take on this is that the Gulf disaster was planned to allow the US to introduce a new form of energy / fuel that they alone are in conrtol of. The oil spill and susequent catastropy was designed to force every other country to accept that this is the way forward and also put and end to the stupidly expensive ME wars for oil. Just my 2 pence



posted on Jun, 14 2010 @ 02:58 PM
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The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.

You, my friend, are terminally optimistic. I wish I had that kind of faith in the leadership of this or any other country.

As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.



posted on Jun, 14 2010 @ 02:59 PM
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"NOAA is confirming the presence of very low concentrations of subsurface oil at sampling depths ranging from the surface to 3,300 feet at locations 40 and 42 nautical miles northeast of the well site and another sampling station at 142 nautical miles southeast of the wellhead," Lubchenco said. Clearly there was some 'activity' at the location mentioned in the email. Could be just another 'misinterpretation' of the facts fueled by the rumor mill or the real deal. Interesting. But I know there was something else mentioned with similar coordinates several weeks earlier. Still looking for it.


Cheers OP, and thanks loam.

If there are 'leaks' in the seafloor 42nm N.E. and 142nm S.E., then this could potentially mean that the seafloor has a rupture running along the N.E./S.E. axis for at least 184nm!

This rang a small bell with me, and remembered a C2C video i saw a day or two ago. I'll have to search again for it, because i can't remember what the guest's name was, but he was saying something about the area where the well is, is smack atop a plate fault line, that runs all down through S. America.

There may be some truth if this data is correct. The joint between the plates may be fracturing.

I'll see if i can find the video. ETA; OK, it wasn't C2C, and it wasn't a video, it was mp3 radio, from a show called Veritas show, the show and player is here
www.veritasshow.com...

The guy doing the talking about the crustal plates in the region is called A.C. Griffith, and the show is episode 80.2

May be something, may be nothing, but it says to me that there are multiple ruptures along the seafloor, all running along this N.E. - S.E. axis for quite some distance. If the plate 'seam' is along the same axis, this might be more than most of us have bargained for. He talks of devastation undreamed of, thus far, at least by me.

Let's hope it's not connected to the plates.


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posted on Jun, 14 2010 @ 03:00 PM
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I disagree with you, respectfully. But even if you are correct in your interpretation the timing is all wrong. Even if BP did need the original well blown for some reason why do it so far in advance of the ostensible "relief" wells? The relief wells were not started until after this happened. My point is that it doesn't add up, not the way it really went down. For instance, BP could have announced months ago that it was having minor complications with a well, and needed to start drilling two relief wells to prevent a blowout, then had they needed to blow the original well for some technical reason they could have done it right before the new wells connected, called it an unfortunate but minor mechanical failure and voila none of this messy bad press and ecological calamity.

Essentially, my point is that I do not think BP would have blown this well intentionally for financial gains.

[edit on 14-6-2010 by Threadfall]



posted on Jun, 14 2010 @ 03:02 PM
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Something terrible happen on the floor yesterday and the doodlebs aren't talking except that they all look like they saw a ghost and everyone here is talking doom.

Interesting and not unbelievable b/c we aren't getting the real video footage anyway.


Everyone here is talking about it but no one dare say anything to anyone even their families.

Because their families will then come up missing?


There's also something happening about 100 miles southeast of the rig site with several navy and uscg ships. And Friday two serious looking guys arrive and started directing our sup. Apparently they showed Navy Intelligence ID when they arrived along with a dozen commando looking guys.

Did anyone else think that at this pt of the letter it sounds a little fictional?



posted on Jun, 14 2010 @ 03:03 PM
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Originally posted by projectvxn
Cost of Clean up to BP:

BP oil spill clean-up costs could total $6bn

BP's Yearly Revenue:

All amounts in millions except per share amounts
BPs Annual Income Statement(MarketWatch)


This means that they could triple the cost of the oil spill and still not be hurt too much, and a producing well would, in fact, cover this.

[edit on 14-6-2010 by projectvxn]



Sorry man this is strictly a bottom kill procedure once the main well is cemented in order for BP to extract oil from Block252 they would have to move the rig to another local and restart a new well.



posted on Jun, 14 2010 @ 03:05 PM
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I am interested in the following part of the email



The doodlebs (seismic analysts) we talk to have stories of repeated rhythmic events at the well head days before the blowout that was the original reason for several being on rig at the time of the blowout. Now no one talks about that since the two who were compiling data on the non-natural seismic signs have gone missing.


OK - these "repeated rhythmic events" could be verified maybe? I tried to find seismic data for this region - but I don't know where to look and would not know how to interpret this anyway.

Maybe someone else here could find this info.

I am also remembering the earthquake in MX in early April of this year. Wasn't there something in VZ or some other spot in Central or South America as well?

What about the earthquake in Haiti?

Are these events somehow connected to the oil spill?

Is there someone here who knows how to analyze these things? I know that "regular" "hits" such as from heavy manufacturing often get picked up by seismic readers - but can be identified easily as they are "regular" or "rhythmic".

I know alot of people here did much research on the various earthquakes which have happening lately - maybe they can cross reference some of the data they used?

It seems to me that if there was some "rhythmic" seismic events in this region - these events may have been picked up elsewhere.



posted on Jun, 14 2010 @ 03:06 PM
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The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.


You may be right.

But chew on this:

What if the chasm is just a giant pressure chamber? What if they needed to bleed some of that pressure before drilling productive wells?(Wells they are now calling relief wells) How do you tell people that you need to spill millions of barrels into the Gulf of Mexico so that they could drill wells they can make money from?

Make it look like an accident. Now, this is just speculation on my part. I'm not saying this is at all true, but I will say that as far as money is concerned, the number are right.

As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.



posted on Jun, 14 2010 @ 03:08 PM
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From your "join date" I am suspicious of your criticisms of the e-mail.

Maybe you were lurking for years..but..



posted on Jun, 14 2010 @ 03:09 PM
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Originally posted by packinupngoin
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Something terrible happen on the floor yesterday and the doodlebs aren't talking except that they all look like they saw a ghost and everyone here is talking doom.

Interesting and not unbelievable b/c we aren't getting the real video footage anyway.


Everyone here is talking about it but no one dare say anything to anyone even their families.

Because their families will then come up missing?


There's also something happening about 100 miles southeast of the rig site with several navy and uscg ships. And Friday two serious looking guys arrive and started directing our sup. Apparently they showed Navy Intelligence ID when they arrived along with a dozen commando looking guys.

Did anyone else think that at this pt of the letter it sounds a little fictional?


Hello,

Actually, yeah, because I don't know if it's possible to see 100 miles away on the ocean. Crap! I just exposed how much of a simpleton I am! Grapevine?



posted on Jun, 14 2010 @ 03:11 PM
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No, you are absolutely correct, go look at his other posts. He is always a militant optimist about the oil spill.

I wish I knew how to get one of these jobs blogging for some company! I would love to come on here and get paid to tell you guys not to worry about anything, everything will be fine, have another swig of the happy sauce!

JW, can you get me an application?





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