reply to post by JohnnyElohim
No, my friend, this is not ethnic cleansing as well.
The concept of transfer has been supported only by the most extremists right wing politicians and is not currently supported by anyone as an idea of
Even the reports of David Ben Gurion's transfer ideas were either taken out of context, or are simply not true, as they are reported to have been
said in a time of war, a war in which borders have been determined on maps but on the ground it still did not have any meaning.
Even so, the idea of transfer is that they'd be transfered somewhere else, is it not? I don't think that constitutes as ethnic cleansing..
And putting that aside you should realize that there are many Israeli Arabs who still live in Israel, my girlfriend is one of them, and had we been up
to ethnic cleansing they would not have been allowed to lived in Israel, would they?
Again, the claims of ethnic cleansing really are baseless, in the Gaza strip there are 1.5 million people, killing 7000 of them in 10 years is hardly
the best method to get rid of them. Looking at the Palestinian people as a whole the west bank, as opposed to terrorist led Gaza, has relative peace
with Israel, it is flourishing, it is turning more moderate and modern every day.
This is all due to the fact that once Arafat died, the people who replaced him were not terrorists. They agreed to talk with Israel. Now they get
millions of dollars every month just so they would not collapse.
If there's one thing the Israeli government is guilty of is collective punishment, because the people that the state of Israel wants to get rid of
are not the civilians of Gaza, but the terrorists of the hamas, yet Gaza as a whole gets punished.
But never ethnic cleansing. If you had been here one day you would have understood. You know, even the most right wing people I know, I've never
heard anyone talk about transfer.
I am not offended by the words of some of the members of this forum.
But I am shocked at the amount of disinformation, the amount of poorly informed people, the lack of willingness people show at changing their views
when faced with facts. The disregard to facts.
And this myth of the Israeli PR! Where the hell did that come from?? Here in Israel we think that we have the worst PR ever, but I thought that was
known all over the world.
The Israeli PR and bias myth seems to have two goals in my opinion- One is to make one think that he's more radical, as if the whole world is for
Israel then you seem to be a lone voice for the people. Makes people feel cool.. Makes you feel like the voice of peace.
Two it makes the Palestinians seem more weak, and Israel more strong, and perpetuates the image of the "eternal Jew" that controls the media,
It is designed to turn more people against Israel.
One other thing that I've noticed-
It seems that being anti Israeli recently has become a "cool" thing to do.
I see fret boys on the news standing in demonstrations unable to answer simple questions on the subjects, yet are full of passion and hate.
Their words and answers seem to be fed from someone else, but they show that they are incapable of thinking.
When asked a question they will revert to a pre prepared general speech on Israel, but when faced with facts and difficult questions they either
can't answer, or they turn back to the same speech.
I see this on the forum.
And thank you for your comment,
[edit on 11-6-2010 by Eliad]