Originally posted by IandEye
wow- that is a very cool assessment.
are demons ghosts?

From what I understand, not exactly. Ghosts are like personality echoes or matrices of people that manage to exist once the original host body is gone. Demons were not necessarily ever "living" beings, but somehow managed to cobble together a personality (entity) that can relate to and understand what it means to have a body, but have never had one themselves.

I could be wrong.

I don't think it would be wise for anyone to speak those "exorcism verses" without knowing what the words mean.

Everyone needs to research and understand these verses, before uttering them.

[edit on 9-6-2010 by Visitor2012]

Originally posted by Visitor2012
I don't think it would be wise for anyone to speak those "exorcism verses" without knowing what the words mean. I'm not questioning the OP's intent or knowledge, but I am suggesting the possibility that all of this information could have originally been placed by those who would mislead you into summoning the demons instead of banishing them.

These are not hail mary's , this is dangerous work.

They are both latin scripture from the bible.

Originally posted by crazydaisy
Do you have an idea or explanation as to why more demons are coming to earth now? Also, if there are demons that are less dangerous are they here for a partcular reason? Are there any entities that come to earth to do good (I believe there is as I have had this experience)?

There are more of these things around because there are more people around. Simple as that. Consciousness and intention creates reality. The more people you have, the more different perceptions of reality you have, and the more range you have in pulling reality from virtuality. Reality is something that solidifies with consensus. The more people you have around who don't go along with the consensus (more standard deviations from the mean), the more things like demons have a chance to exist. Also other semi-real things like (some) UFOs and odd monsters like Sasquatch.

Several months ago I had a dream that I thought I would never talk about. This seams to be the appropriate place.

The dream involves me sleeping on my side and presumably seeing clearly a being smiling and admiring my computer that was several feet away. It was like I was awake and watching this being, but I know it was a dream because I wear glasses and what I saw would be very blurry if I was awake.

The dream momentarily faded and when the dream activated again the being was aware of me and was scowling at me. It went into what I would describe as a portal and was followed by (weird, I know) a rabbit and 2 to 3 other animals.

The being was tall, 6-7 feet and was humanlike. What I really remember about it was it seemed there were lines on its face. Real, pencil-type lines that could have formed some kind of geometry.

Do you or anyone else have any idea what this was, besides being your typicle nightmare kind of dream.

It felt real and kinda freaked me out when I got up the next morning. I remembered it vividly.

I looked through the link provided, but there are so many and most do not have pictures.

I also looked at that type of website to identify it at the time.

Any help with it's identity would be appreciated.

Originally posted by mf_luder
The basis of what you are saying is that I'm arguing from a biblical or not biblical standpoint. I respect your views, but these things don't care about the information about them in the bible. My experiences tend to not jive with the bible as well.
I'm not saying the bible is bad - but I moved beyond that book and started doing further research.

That's cool. But check out that book online. It will send chills down your spine.

A Primer on Djinn

From arabic lore, a Djinn is a type of interfering spirit, often demonlike but not equivalent to a demon. Djinn are self-propogating and can be either good or evil. They possess supernatural powers and can be summoned in various magickal rites.

Life

The life span of a Djinn is much longer than that of humans, but they do die. They are both male and female and have children. They eat meat, bones and dung of animals. Although they can live anywhere on the planet, they prefer deserts, ruins and places of impurity such as graveyards, garbage dumps, bathrooms, camel pastures and hashish dens. They can also live in the houses where people live. They love to sit in places between the shade and the sunlight and move about when it actually gets dark outside.

Marriage

There seems to be a big controversy in Islam over whether or not it is lawful to marry a Djinn. A clan in the UAE claims to have descended from a female Djinn. Djinn do interfere in human relationships. If they fall in love with a human, they try to disrupt marriages and other relationships.

Possession

Ordinary human acts can kill or hurt Djinn without humans being aware of it and when that happens, sometimes the Djinn will possess the offender in order to take revenge on them. Although they are able to affect people's minds and bodies, they have no power over the soul. When possessed, the person appears to be insane and exhibits signs of anger, anxiety, and depression. A woman's voice will sound like a man's, and a man's voice will sound like a woman's. Physical symptoms include nausea after eating, headaches, frequent desire to fight, heavy shoulder and a constant feeling of dissatisfaction.

Asking the Djinn to leave may be enough to induce them to go, but in some cases an exorcism ritual can expel them from the body.

(This is paraphrased from an entry in The Encyclopedia of Demons & Demonology by Rosemary Ellen Guiley)

I pulled this because to date I have not personally encountered a Djinn.

Originally posted by texastig

Originally posted by mf_luder
The basis of what you are saying is that I'm arguing from a biblical or not biblical standpoint. I respect your views, but these things don't care about the information about them in the bible. My experiences tend to not jive with the bible as well.
I'm not saying the bible is bad - but I moved beyond that book and started doing further research.

That's cool. But check out that book online. It will send chills down your spine.

No need to - I have two copies in my personal library I've already read through. Thanks for the offer though. I tend to stray away from reading books online - hate the screen glow with E-Books... there's just something about paper...