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Originally posted by Stateless Person
Hello ,
No direspect but I'd rather follow Raj Patel than your version of Koran. Don't pretend to be philoosophycal, Islam is a vey rigid religion where you are not allowed to think for your self...
Originally posted by Stateless Person
Let have a conversation like normal people. You seem like a good person. My problem with Islam, Koran and Mohammed, peace be upon him, is that he is misinterpreted right and left. Christians believe that Bible is protected by Holly Spirit and can't be changed. Muslims usually believe in interpretations... Although I except the possibility that you are really in touch with the maker... But what's wrong with Benjamin Creme? He just wants what is good... Do you subscribe to what christians believe end-time delusion? I don't take the piss.I respect the ampount of research u did in your videos and weired connections you found. The only idea I like about Islam is submission,.. but that's because I am weak.
Originally posted by Stateless Person
Ok, you made me think... One last question: when you say "Holy Koran" - do you refer to the actual book you can buy in any bookshop? Or do you refer to the concept?
Originally posted by Stateless Person
"Their similitude is that of
a man who kindled a fire;
when it lighted all around
him, God took away their
light and left them in utter
darkness. So they could not
see."
Hello the previous poster,
Don't play games with God, - it says. But what is God's game? He either gives us free will or he doesn't. Why put seals on people's hearts and hearing? Why put veil on their eyes? Why increase disese in their hearts?
Started reading the The Noble Quran with Abdullah Yusuf Ali English Translation - beautiful spiritual book. I just don't understand God (Allah).
It's the same with the christian God. It's either free will or not. Is Faith a gift or a choice? Are we predestined to believe and not believe?
Originally posted by Robert Reynolds
What effect do you think, does this Raj Patel fella have on the average man on the street? I'm from the UK and have only heard of him through ATS. Is he well known in the US and other places?
Originally posted by Stateless Person
Couple of days after we discussed free will, Share Int mag came out with their article about the same subject. Have you read it? What do you think?
Originally posted by wcitizen
reply to post by TheTruthIsFromGod
Nice post.
To 'They have to find causes to unite us', I would just add -
They have to find causes to unite us, because when there is a cause of common concern, they then take the lead on that cause, and in so doing use it as one more way to take control of and manipulate larger and larger groups of people across the globe. For them, issues of 'global' interest facilitate their goal of 'global control'.
Remember doublespeak: In their language 'Unity' means 'Fragmentation and Division'