reply to post by sdocpublishing
I am sorry you feel that way. First you might want to read my posting history to get a better understanding of my motivations.
For now we will just accept your perception is your reality.
So you have already been divided and conquered by it.
Now here is the rub in divide and conquer which confuses these issues in regards to who is right and wrong.
Everything ultimately gets divided into a polarized two sided coin.
"Rome offers you War or peace, it matters not which to Rome you decide"
This is a very old saying, and what does it really mean. It means what ever choice you make favors Rome, because Rome is the one that gave you the
choices to make.
You can choose A, you can choose B, there is no C, D, E, or F answer in that proposition.
Most of the particular agrument you are talking about, ultimately boils down in most people's eyes to you are either pro-Israeli or pro-Palestine,
you are either anti-Israeli, or anti-Palestine, you are either pro-Jewish or pro-Muslim, or are anti-Semitic or anti-Muslim.
These are the distinctions being made in most arguments, they all revolve around who they all revolve around two choices.
I am going to ask you though, and think carefully if you will, is it possible to just be fair in relation to both sides without having to adopt a
label for or against either side.
In other words can I speak to what is right about Palestine and what is wrong about Palestine, and what is right about Israel and what is wrong about
Israel, without being placed in a pro or anti camp, by one side or the other.
Currently that is impossible to do, and often it is laid as a trap, that once you are entrenched in the pro-Israel camp by your own design or theirs
you can no longer speak to anything wrong about Isreal.
If you are placed in a pro-Palestine camp you can no longer speak about anything wrong about Palestine.
So yes they become absolutes in most cases where you loose your distinction as an impartial unbiased observer because if you say anthing negative
about Israel by observing it did something wrong, you are anti-Israel, if you say anything negative about Palestine by observing it did something
wrong, you are anti-Palestine.
Labels are attached and then people expected to go all down the line with that side and that is a huge part of the problem.
No one, and no nation is perfect, so it's absurd to think either side does not do things that are wrong, but it is nearly impossible to speak to the
wrong of actions, without being then labelled and afilliated with a who.
Once again this thread is not about who is right and wrong in this issue, it's about methodology and procedure on how we can productively speak to
what is right and wrong, without being labelled into camps.
You might want to reread the opening piece and some of my extensive posting history before rushing to such conclusions as all you have just tried to
do is divide and conquer me, by insisting I too must be in one camp or another, or have an agenda for one camp or another.
That's called divide and conquer, and I will only speak personally to the actions of right and wrong, not who is right and wrong.
I don't judge people, I judge actions, and then ask people to take responsibility for those actions.
[edit on 8/6/10 by ProtoplasmicTraveler]