Originally posted by YJLTG
reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler
After considering what is right and wrong it comes to who did that right or wrong and that cannot be ignored. You (anyone) cannot disconnect yourself
from the situation if you have any feelings when you see a atrocity, genocide happening...actually most normal people cannot except for those who are
paid to post or instructed to post (megaphone, jdif etc) then all sense of rational dialogue loose its meaning. The only way to do at this time
of paid posters is to a) ignore or b) break them. There is no point in discussing with them rationally because their intent is not to discuss but to
plant seeds of propaganda.
It cannot be disputed Israel has been running worlds largest and longest propaganda campaign and it has now run it's life.
[edit on 7-6-2010 by YJLTG]
Two things one is what is right or wrong, should lead to real remedies to address what is wrong, to make it right.
Retribution does not make things right. Revenge does not make things right.
Breaking the cycle of action and reaction is what makes things right, by letting go of what is wrong, and then establishing mechanisms so what would
be right can occur.
A lot of people focus on punishment, but punishment does not make something right, it just punishes some one who may or may not have done something
wrong, based as often on who they are as what they did.
In a lot of ways we are tricked into the notions that things will now be right because we punished who was wrong!
What makes things right is developing new policies and procedures and perspectives and mechanisms to ensure what is right occurs.
At that point, regardless of past participation, in the present you become part of the solution or part of the problem by either wishing to and
allowing for what is right to occure, or preventing it from occuring most often in that case on who the right things is going to be done for, which
people then sometimes believe is wrong for them based on what's happened in the past and 'who' was right and who was wrong.
Prejudices and fears cause a 'who' to feel something that would be right for them, is not right for someone else, because if someone else had the
same thing, they might use it in wrong ways against them.
So it is very much about convincing people the future need not be equal to the past, which is a challenge since so many people are inclined to say
some things are a problem but will never change, which is really just there way of saying, that they like being part of the problem, because changing
things for the better is predicated on them not standing in the way or what is right, by being apathetic to what is wrong.
No one can be right all the time, no one can be wrong all the time, so we all have to accept our true responsibility in that regard and redouble our
efforts to do right.
The thread is not really about assigning blame to a party or absolving a party in regards to this issue, its about how do we as human beings arrive
fairly at what is right for everyone, as opposed to just right for someone.
I believe we do that by learning to look at the right and wrong of each instance of right and wrong, and discussing and finding real ways to make that
not happen again, instead of pretending a dysfunctional status quo is really solving things when it is not, based on who the status quo works for.