Originally posted by Misoir
Who cares? What's up with this sick obsession with guns here in America? It's just a sign of a violent society, and a pretty scared one too. You
don't think you can contain our government without the use of weapons? That's pretty sad.
I support an all out hand gun ban. We are the reason all of the countries that have banned hand guns keep having gun violence. We are the leader in
arms shipment, including guns on the black market.
You are so out of touch with reality, and the same goes for those who voted for you, that it is not even funny...
Violence has surged in every nation where law abidding citizens have been banned from owning handguns, or where there are tight restrictions in
Some of us have posted time and again the facts, yet people like you keep spouting lies, and disinformation which shows your complete ignorance in
topics like this one.
We recently even had an article which showed how an 80 year old man, defended himself, his wife and his property from a burglar WHO WAS ARMED probably
with an illegal weapon. Both the burglar and the 80 year old man discharged their weapons, but the 80 year old man was able to kill the intruder
before the intruder killed his wife and him.
You should do some research before you make claims you know nothing about buddy.
Since the gun ban in the UK for example gun crimes have increased dramatically because CRIMINALS don't have legal weapons....
Culture of violence: Gun crime goes up by 89% in a decade
By James Slack
Last updated at 8:42 AM on 27th October 2009
Gun crime has almost doubled since Labour came to power as a culture of extreme gang violence has taken hold.
The latest Government figures show that the total number of firearm offences in England and Wales has increased from 5,209 in 1998/99 to 9,865
last year - a rise of 89 per cent.
In some parts of the country, the number of offences has increased more than five-fold.
In eighteen police areas, gun crime at least doubled.
The statistic will fuel fears that the police are struggling to contain gang-related violence, in which the carrying of a firearm has become
increasingly common place.
Last week, police in London revealed they had begun carrying out armed patrols on some streets.
The move means officers armed with sub-machine guns are engaged in routine policing for the first time.
BTW, here are some very wise words from men who have had experience and knowledge on what can happen when people are disarmed...
An example of British thinking in colonial times:
"No kingdom can be secured otherwise than by arming the people. The possession of arms is the distinction between a freeman and a slave. He,
who has nothing, and who himself belongs to another, must be defended by him, whose property he is, and needs no arms. But he, who thinks he is his
own master, and has what he can call his own, ought to have arms to defend himself, and what he possesses; else he lives precariously, and at
discretion." --James Burgh (Political Disquisitions: Or, an Enquiry into Public Errors, Defects, and Abuses) [London, 1774-1775]
And thoughts (on this subject) of the man who wanted to rule the world:
"The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to allow the subject races to possess arms. History shows that all conquerors who
have allowed the subject races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by so doing. Indeed, I would go so far as to say that the supply of arms
to the underdogs is a sine qua non for the overthrow of any sovereignty." -- Adolf Hitler (H.R. Trevor-Roper, Hitler's Table Talks
The leaders of our freedom struggle recognised this, even Gandhi the foremost practitioner of passive resistance and non-violence had this to say
about the British policy of gun-control in India:
"Among the many misdeeds of the British rule in India, history will look upon the Act depriving a whole nation of arms, as the
blackest." -- Mahatma Gandhi (An Autobiography OR The story of my experiments with truth, by M.K. Gandhi, p.238)
Again, take a look at what is happening to a country where law abidding citizens have been banned from owning handguns and other firearms.
The most violent country in Europe: Britain is also worse than South Africa and U.S.
The Tories said Labour had presided over a decade of spiralling violence.
In the decade following the party's election in 1997, the number of recorded violent attacks soared by 77 per cent to 1.158million - or more than two
The figures, compiled from reports released by the European Commission and United Nations, also show:
The UK has the second highest overall crime rate in the EU.
It has a higher homicide rate than most of our western European neighbours, including France, Germany, Italy and Spain.
The UK has the fifth highest robbery rate in the EU.
It has the fourth highest burglary rate and the highest absolute number of burglaries in the EU, with double the number of offences than recorded in
Germany and France.
But it is the naming of Britain as the most violent country in the EU that is most shocking. The analysis is based on the number of crimes per 100,000
In the UK, there are 2,034 offences per 100,000 people, way ahead of second-placed Austria with a rate of 1,677.
The U.S. has a violence rate of 466 crimes per 100,000 residents, Canada 935, Australia 92 and South Africa 1,609.
Shadow Home Secretary Chris Grayling said: 'This is a damning indictment of this government's comprehensive failure over more than a decade to
tackle the deep rooted social problems in our society, and the knock on effect on crime and anti-social behaviour.
It would help you if you actually checked for facts before making claims which are completely wrong.
In every case where nations have banned handguns, or implemented very restrictive laws on firearms crime in overall, and even gun crimes HAVE
When law abiding citizens are not armed, the only people armed are criminals, who do not abide by the laws of course. But this is something some
people don't seem to comprehend.
[edit on 1-6-2010 by ElectricUniverse]