Thinking About Giving Up Cigarettes? Doc Velocity Just Had a Stroke..., page 3
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reply posted on 28-5-2010 @ 05:25 AM by St Udio
reply to post by TiredofControlFreaks




i'm in agreement... the bells went off when this was entered on-the-record;
Thursday morning my doc came back in with a clipboard full of test results — Brain clear, heart, aorta and brachial arteries clear, but carotid arteries showed mild plaque build-up...

He postulated that a tiny little bit of plaque had undoubtedly broken away and gone to my brain, which precipitated the stroke


i/we immediately know that smoking does not cause plaque build-up in the blood vessels... its all about diet>exercise>other pre-disposition factors>
smoking may be on the list somewhere in the ~obscure~ zone.


lots of people have ill-diagnoised mini-strokes all the time,
yours was a high profile attack, it may be possible your highly sensitive & your body went into hyper drive response/stress/ & shutting down as a protective measure
~ because if your incapacitated, you don't move much & the clot would not further wedge itself into a tight spot where all the blood flow was stopped in a certain region of your brain causing even greater, permanent damage. good for you.


processed food, and too much of it, was more likely the cause of the plaque buildup, (not inhaling tobacco smoke)

~peace~


reply posted on 28-5-2010 @ 05:26 AM by chiponbothshoulders
Someone needs to document the contents of car exhaust,and out-gassing of materials used to construct cars and other vehicles.

I believe the negative health effects of lack of excersise are already pretty much documented,and driving isn't exactly physically taxing,it's like a motorized recliner,a giant motorized wheelchair,Hmmmmph.....

Where do your tires go when they wear out?,few even consider this....

I don't defend smoking cigarettes,but I do feel that smoking is being used as a scapegoat,to cover up the health effects of the pollution caused by motor vehicles,and other commonly used items we are surrounded by .

It's just too easy to pick on something so obvious as someone who smells bad and has yellow teeth,being the bunch "of chickens pecking at one another we are".

I have known people in my life who never smoked a cigarette,and were diagnosed with lung cancer,and died shortly after,why?.

I really don't think it is second hand smoke,or just smoking,since every day we are all exposed to all of the things that all kinds of motor vehicles spew into our air.

But don't approach that,marginalize a dirty old guy/gal,walking around smoking tobacco instead.

I think approaching that subject would cost too much for the few who profit from petroleum use,and so on.

And the majority of you would have to admit that you are part of the problem.

And we just can't have that now,can we?.

Peck away.

Buck buck buck backuck!.

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reply posted on 28-5-2010 @ 05:27 AM by OptimusPrimate
Wow Doc - that sounds terrifying!

I hope you feel better soon..

I quit smoking 2 years ago - without any bother - how? - the right mind set!

Allow me to provide some useful ideas for anyone whose WANTS to quit smoking.

I'm not going to talk about the health scares because if that was gonna work - none of you would be smoking.

Some statements I've heard from smokers (including myself!):

1. 'Smoking relaxes me' - Wrong - it causes the itch that you need to scratch which causes the itch.- Smoking a cigerette creates an endorphine rush and when these endorphines are depleted - leave a hole, an empty feeling - a craving.You smoke to become NORMAL again - that cycle needs to be broken.

2.'Smoking relieves boredom' -Really? How interesting are cigarettes? When you actually think about it...they're pretty damn unremarkable.
All that cigarette does is relieves the itch that the first and every cigarette you've ever smoked has caused - when you are 'bored' there's nothing to distract you from the itch.

3.'I've smoked for years - its going to make it harder for me to stop'. - If you actually belive that, surely its only going to get harder the longer you leave it?
If you have smoked for years the benifits and the sense of freedom you'll experience when you stop will be even greater!

4.'You have do die from something right? - It might aswell be from something I enjoy, anyway I could walk under a bus tommorow.' - Have you witnessed a friend or relative diing from a smoking related disease?..Would you actually volunteer to walk under a bus?

5. 'I've heard its 'hard' to stop smoking!' Who's told you that?! You're smoking friends? - The ones that are also trying to justify why they are still smoking? The NRT companies? - I guess they have sales targets they need to hit.

6. 'I heard that tobacco is more addictive than heroin' hmmmm - Nicotine does act FASTER and you become addicited QUICKER than if you were taking heroin...but the facts are that you are never badly hooked. Compare a heroin addict and a nicotine addict going through withdrawal should disprove that statement.

7. 'When I tried quitting in the past I became unbearable to live with - I shouted at my friends and family.'
I'm sure your friends and family will understand and would rather you be irritable for a few weeks than to die a potentially slow and painful death...

8. 'I only smoke 10 a day' Why would you boast about how little you do something if you 'enjoy' it? - Think about that.


A few helpful points to help you succeed.

Giving up smoking is easy, but only if you have the right mind set...escape escape escape! - Take control of YOUR life.

NRT can be useful, I used it to take the edge off for the first week, purely because I was at work and needed to work closely with a team. I would recommend picking a time where work and family commitments are at a 'normal' amount.

I quit smoking on a satuday - and went out drinking with my mates..I had a great time and proved once and for all I could enjoy myself without smoking - infact, I enjoyed myself more since I didn;t have to break conversation to go outside to smoke, I also had more confidence because I didn't stink of smoke.

Don't envy smokers -pity them - they are still trapped by myths,you are free.

Imagine yourself in a months time, the redness from your face is fading, broken veins are less visible, you can actually appreciate fabric softener and enjoy meals....

Its the best thing you'll ever do for your body....its the only one you get!

Good luck and please don't kill me if I sounded patronising...




reply posted on 28-5-2010 @ 05:35 AM by chiponbothshoulders
reply to post by Doc Velocity


Your mind can be visualized as a stack of plates being carried in a restaurant by a clumsy employee,it is fine and dandy and orderly until the guy drops the stack,then it's a jumbled up mess.

If you don't lose any pieces,the plates can be glued back together,but there will still be gaps and cracks and glue marks where the breaks were.

There is always something lost,I learn this every day.

The plates will never be quite the same,and the restaurant will be forbidden from using them to serve customers.

I love knowing my brain is broken,and the fact it makes no difference....

I see things differently than I did before the stroke,I had to re-learn how to learn when I had to learn to walk and talk and all again.

Anyway.........


reply posted on 28-5-2010 @ 06:01 AM by SmokeandShadow
reply to post by Doc Velocity



Wow, thank you for that and I'm glad you are well. I was just about to go walk to McDonalds for an unhealthy breakfast and go about my day as usual, smoking cigarettes... I will try harder to abstain from both.

I find it fascinating that you felt a sense calm in the midst of a panic situation where you, obviously, were preparing yourself to pass on into the great unknown. I can't say that I would have such composure. You must feel grateful to be able to spend more time with you're wife.

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reply posted on 28-5-2010 @ 06:26 AM by Braindecay
reply to post by Doc Velocity



Hi I have never had a stroke but did smoked from twelve and stopped at 31. My girlfriend didn't wanted me to stop for her or our kids, but for myself. I had tried it before and it never worked.

Then there was a advertisement in a paper about laser therapy and my healthcare fully paid for the treatment so I thought why not. The last day I smoked a whole pack and went into the clinic.

After some talking and paperwork I was instructed to lay on a table and putt some kind of glasses on (guess) protection against the laser? Anyhow I was calm and the woman was also talking to me very kind and almost like whispering. Now at that time I had some laser shots in my ear and was still relax after 30 minutes it was over and I was outside.

First though. I want to smoke where can I buy? But something weird happened. I just said into my head i'm the boss I don't buy them anymore and went home. First days I eat lots of fruit and toke chewing gum every time I had a thought about smoking or just went outside biking.

After a week depression started and I went to my doctor he gave me valium for a week and that helped me to relax. Now i'm a year further and still have not smoked and not want to even no problem if someone next to me smokes that doesn't give me a feeling that I need it too.


reply posted on 28-5-2010 @ 06:30 AM by Tayesin
reply to post by Doc Velocity


Hi Doc,
Brilliantly written so we could get inside you during your experience, thank you very much.

I was also glad to see you knew to focus your mind in order to bring you back into your centre, calmly. Well done on having the "mind" at the time to remember.

You were exceptionally 'lucky' not to have required immediate surgery.

Wanna be my "stop buddy"? I've been putting it off now for sometime despite experiencing what smoking is doing to the body.

Good to know you are well.


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