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Originally posted by Dallas1611
Very interesting thread...and no, I personally have never heard of such a treatment.
I can't really understand how pasting blood through your muscles good do any real healing, unless your muscles are acting as a filter, cleaning out impurities and serving as an additional kidneys..in a strange sort of way.
Originally posted by VneZonyDostupa
The "science" behind this theory is severely lacking. Injecting your own blood into muscle tissue will not cause in increase in macrophage infiltration for a few important reasons. Firstly, the immediate immune response is mediated by neutrophils, not macrophages. Secondly, in order for this infiltration to occur, you must be introducing foreign antigen. If the foreign antigen is already in the venous/arterial blood stream, it is much, much more likely to be detected there, rather than in the muscular compartment.
Nothing in this "autohemotherapy" makes any sense medically or scientifically, and in fact directly contradicts well-established concepts of basic medicine. The idea that "millions" have been cured by it, as asserted in line one of the OP, is either an attempt at humor or an outright lie.
Originally posted by henriquefd
I wouldn't doubt those numbers, because Brazil has around 200 million people and autohemotherapy is growing at a huge rate. In Europe, it seems to be a lot more common than here, since they have clinics especialised in it. In Brazil, there can't be any clynics, because it is considered illegal practice, so it's all done on clandistine places, or even in small pharmacies.
Originally posted by VneZonyDostupa
I don't doubt that millions have tried it. What I doubt is that millions were "cured" by it, as it says in the OP. Nothing about this treatment would cure any disease, especially when this Dr. Luis Moura doesn't even know that macrophages don't invade muscular tissue sites for 5-7 days after exposure to antigen.
The reported beneficial action of autohemotherapy has been attributed to the presence of antigens in the blood [*6] which stimulate the production of antibodies when injected into the tissues. This explanation finds support in the work of Dr. E. C. Rosenow (Mayo Foundation, 1915-44), which established the presence of a causative organism or antigen in the blood [*7] during active stages of many diseases. Thus might the action of autohemotherapy be likened to that of an autogenous vaccine.
Originally posted by henriquefd
That's the kicker and what intrigues me. There are many people claiming to get cured by it. And nobody is proving otherwise. Some accused it as being just a placebo, but then the argument didn't stand, because it seems autohemotherapy is also used in veterinary, and you can't cure animals with placebos.
EDIT: Here is something I found touching the matter of antigens:
The reported beneficial action of autohemotherapy has been attributed to the presence of antigens in the blood [*6] which stimulate the production of antibodies when injected into the tissues. This explanation finds support in the work of Dr. E. C. Rosenow (Mayo Foundation, 1915-44), which established the presence of a causative organism or antigen in the blood [*7] during active stages of many diseases. Thus might the action of autohemotherapy be likened to that of an autogenous vaccine.
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[edit on 18-6-2010 by henriquefd]
Originally posted by jjjtir
henriquefd, I wasn't aware of this "alternative" treatment, will look into it from the very beginning.
But, while searching for it, I came upon a news article claiming that Brazil's Vice President "José Alencar Gomes da Silva" is being helped by autohemotherapy in his battle against cancer.
In portuguese:
VICE-PRESIDENTE DA REPÚBLICA CURA CÂNCER COM AUTO-HEMOTERAPIA
Imagine that... the VP of the country using this treatment.
Extremely high profile.
Autohemotherapy is a safe treatment for urticaria and eczema. Across studies, autohemotherapy tends to be somewhat more effective overall than control therapy, but the advantage is not statistically reliable. Urticaria patients who test positive on the autologous serum skin test respond more favorably to autohemotherapy on average than those who test negative. More randomized trials are required to clarify the effectiveness of autohemotherapy.