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Originally posted by Shine71
Illegals contribute ZERO benefit to the country. They cause LOTS of problems. They cost the country HUGE amounts of money. It is VERY beneficial to eliminate them all. For the sake of the country and its legal citizens, its a HANDS DOWN WIN to get them OUT ASAP!!!!!!!!
Originally posted by prionace glauca
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Also for every job the illegal occupies, a citizen now has to be placed on food stamps and unemployment benefits.
Open borders thinking is utter nonsense, how about these criminals have some balls and go back to save their own country.
Originally posted by XtremeDethBear
I have the feeling the border states would be really upset if something like the OP mentioned became law.
I am sure out of all the illegal immigrants that make their way in to this country; there are some illegals that are honest, hard working, and great people. The violence, gangs, crimes, and drug cartels that seem to be happening are good enough reasons to not open our border.
Originally posted by XtremeDethBear
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I am sure out of all the illegal immigrants that make their way in to this country; there are some illegals that are honest, hard working, and great people. .....
Originally posted by prionace glauca
Take for example the anchor baby laws alone, as they were designed during the slavery era to grant children of slaves citizenship because their parents were removed from their original country. They were not meant for people bent on breaking laws to jump the fence and attain benefits through their anchors such as food stamps, cell phones, subsidized housing, & healthcare.
Originally posted by Illusionsaregrander
reply to post by OldThinker
Honestly, I have yet to see a well thought through argument on why we should not enforce our immigration laws.
For the most part, I see highly emotional, (and I am sure sincerely felt) diatribes on how it is racist to enforce our laws, how it will result in racial profiling, etc. I dont see any evidence that the person feeling these noble emotions has considered what it means to be a nation with no borders.
But you are right, why pay for services we have no intention of using? Unless we are just trying to employ people, and we dont care at all about getting our money's worth. We might as well save the money and use the personnel for other things.
Originally posted by daskakik
I would say that to the busnisses that hire them they offer a bigger profit margin. Their work creates wealth for their employers and indirectly the nation.
This is not in the best interests of the nation but only the few. I guess if you believe that the money made by those that employ illegals trickles up, down or out (Reaganomics style) then you could say it's good.
[edit on 24-5-2010 by daskakik]
Originally posted by OldThinker
EGO-centric vs. NATION-centric?
Which is more LONG-TERM?
OT
Originally posted by PatesHatriots
You got to have someone to stop tourists and low-end drug runners. We wouldn't want government sponsored cartels and criminal organizations that can fly or ship in their wares have competition on the street now would we?
Originally posted by PatesHatriots
reply to post by OldThinker
Hey, I didn't say it was good logic. I was just answering the original question.
Originally posted by RRokkyy
Originally posted by prionace glauca
Take for example the anchor baby laws alone, as they were designed during the slavery era to grant children of slaves citizenship because their parents were removed from their original country. They were not meant for people bent on breaking laws to jump the fence and attain benefits through their anchors such as food stamps, cell phones, subsidized housing, & healthcare.
There are no anchor baby laws in the constitution.
Illegals contribute ZERO benefit to the country. They cause LOTS of problems. They cost the country HUGE amounts of money.
Take for example the anchor baby laws alone, as they were designed during the slavery era to grant children of slaves citizenship because their parents were removed from their original country. They were not meant for people bent on breaking laws to jump the fence and attain benefits through their anchors such as food stamps, cell phones, subsidized housing, & healthcare.
New York Times reports that Henry Cejudo, the son of unauthorized migrants, has just won the gold for the U.S. For most nativists, however, Henry Cejudo is not a U.S. citizen. He is an "anchor baby".
"This is the American dream," said a joyful Cejudo, still wrapped in the U.S. flag. "The United States is the greatest country in the world."
Kevin Baxter - Los Angeles Times