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Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
It is our fault though for not forgiving ourselves for being imperfect.
It is our fault that we all allow ourselves to be manipulated along these lines, by a ruling cabal that simply seeks its own profit, glory and power, in perpetuity by taking advantage of that inherent human guilt, over Original Sin, and our inherent imperfect nature.
It is time for the people of the world to first forgive themselves, for being imperfect, so we can finally then begin to forgive one another for being the same!
Originally posted by Hemisphere
Originally posted by Logarock
That this borrowing idea to discredit is at best a sophomoric explanation to vent some of the pressure to take it seriously. Which I do as the impression on the historians around the world durring that time was very profound.
Do you think that men could have altered the written history of the Sumerians in a similar fashion to suit their needs? (We can make an educated guess that the oldest documents found were not the first and so a comparison like McCabe's is no longer possible.) Could a natural disaster morph into a punishment from god so that the story could serve political purposes similar to what the RCC was doing in the 19th and 20th centuries with the Encyclopedias?
Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
reply to post by Hemisphere
The myth that Jesus died on the cross asking for forgiveness to absolve us all of that presumed sin is misconstrued.
Forgiving others won't work if you can't first forgive yourself, because ultimately if you can't forgive yourself, your forgiveness to another, is simply in word and not deed. You perhaps no longer see them at fault, but yourself at fault. The wheel keeps turning, reactions that breed furture actions, where the drama continues to exist in one's own mind.
A drama we will externally manifest again and again and again, until we learn to forgive ourselves and others and let it go.
Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
A great and very intelligent question Star and Flag!
There is little doubt that world events are manipulated on a grand scale to mimic Bible prophecy.
The prophecies are simply trickery, by men, who understood, that mathematics would one day allow the entire world to become populated under the same system, using the mathematics of divide and conquer warfare, that religion more than anything helps to fuel the divisions of.
Other groups like the Bilderbergers work on manipulating the political stage to accentuate the divisions that exist in religious believe, nationality and ethnicity, and to drive those divisions to seeing violent solutions as ideal, so one division wipes out the other.
[edit on 17/4/10 by ProtoplasmicTraveler]
Originally posted by Looking_Glass
It's so strange that this thread came about, as I actually had a dream of someone telling me that this was the case. That it was all about creating fear to make money and so forth.
[edit on 14-4-2010 by Looking_Glass]
Originally posted by Logarock
Or it may be as the prophets say that trickery was invented to blind man to the way of truth. That Sun worship, witchcraft, Buda and so are all aberrations.
"I am driven with a mission from God. God would tell me, 'George go and fight these terrorists in Afghanistan'. And I did. And then God would tell me 'George, go and end the tyranny in Iraq'. And I did. And now, again, I feel God's words coming to me, 'Go get the Palestinians their state and get the Israelis their security, and get peace in the Middle East'. And, by God, I'm gonna do it." - George W. Bush
Prophet or trickery? I vote trickery.
Originally posted by Hemisphere
Originally posted by Logarock
Or it may be as the prophets say that trickery was invented to blind man to the way of truth. That Sun worship, witchcraft, Buda and so are all aberrations.
And perhaps the prophets were merely pointing the finger at competitors' trickery. "It takes one to know one." They were competing for hearts and minds, no holds barred. The game continues to this day. If you had to convince men in your tribe that destroying the inhabitants of a village or city was God's will you would need to be that ruthless. God didn't bother speaking directly to every man, just a select few. There is a clue there.
"I am driven with a mission from God. God would tell me, 'George go and fight these terrorists in Afghanistan'. And I did. And then God would tell me 'George, go and end the tyranny in Iraq'. And I did. And now, again, I feel God's words coming to me, 'Go get the Palestinians their state and get the Israelis their security, and get peace in the Middle East'. And, by God, I'm gonna do it." - George W. Bush
Prophet or trickery? I vote trickery.
Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
reply to post by Hemisphere
Prophet or trickery? I vote trickery.
There is a reason phonetically that some words sound identical; let’s look at an example of two of those identical sounding words.
Prophet = Profit
Convince someone you are a Prophet and there is in fact great financial Profit to be made in that.
Prophet = Profit $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Old George Jr. certainly was quite the Profit for his oil tycoon and arms dealing, and banking buddies.
George was truly a Prophet and turned for them quite a Profit, which as I mentioned earlier, prophecies are the self stated intentions of manipulative people, looking to manifest those things into reality for a profit.
Prophet = Profit $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Originally posted by Logarock
But you take those old classic biblical prophets. They were not know by thier own as anything but competiton. The real prophets dont seek the profits of the false prophets and this is why they are hated the more. They are hated anyway, their words carry weight not their money bag. They cant be bought or controled by gold and yet you lump them in with the fake and the fake lump them in with themselves.
And I know you havent forgotten but most of the prophets spoke to their own anyway. And thier missions were certainly nothing they could have or would have profited from. Bush is not a prophet but he did in his hour prophesy more than all of the prophets. So did his dad when all the false prophets warned of doom and evil afoot he pressed on. These same prophets seeing that they had been carried away by some strange wind got on board with the next war only becouse it was clear to them now. They are only good at seeing this way...after the fact. Truly the children of this world are wiser than the mass pile of the stinking flesh of the rotting prophets of bael.
Originally posted by Hemisphere
Originally posted by Logarock
But you take those old classic biblical prophets. They were not know by thier own as anything but competiton. The real prophets dont seek the profits of the false prophets and this is why they are hated the more. They are hated anyway, their words carry weight not their money bag. They cant be bought or controled by gold and yet you lump them in with the fake and the fake lump them in with themselves.
And I know you havent forgotten but most of the prophets spoke to their own anyway. And thier missions were certainly nothing they could have or would have profited from. Bush is not a prophet but he did in his hour prophesy more than all of the prophets. So did his dad when all the false prophets warned of doom and evil afoot he pressed on. These same prophets seeing that they had been carried away by some strange wind got on board with the next war only becouse it was clear to them now. They are only good at seeing this way...after the fact. Truly the children of this world are wiser than the mass pile of the stinking flesh of the rotting prophets of bael.
I "can take those old classic biblical prophets" in the same way I can take modern ones. We've already been through what McCabe uncovered. I contend that the Biblical prophesies were written when convenient to justify in the minds of this one tribe their revenge against and subjugation of others. You weren't there, you can only guess in the same way I do. I've shown where history has been re-written to justify agendas in the recent past, you don't believe ancient Palestinians were also doing that or more precisely that this select few "chosen" ancient Palestinians, known generally as "prophets" were doing that. I doubt we will agree on their true nature but I remain open to correction. But I must confess I do not see or anticipate the method of my correction.
I consider any man that pits one against another for the fully unknowable motives of an invisible tyrant to be a prophet of bael.
Originally posted by Logarock
Yes we are not going to agree on this point of the OT prophets being a farce.
The area in question has prophets on both sides and I hope you feel the same about all of them anyway.