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Originally posted by viperdave
come on people, i know the history of the UK i also know the history of the US ..... BOTH countrys have done appalling things over the years, (well, the UK for a bit longer) but the bottom line is, and please remember this, you all know the historys because people lived to tell about them, lets not forget ANY history and try to learn from it
im not pround of the wrong doings the US has done in the past,......i am very proud of the alliance the UK and the US had in WWII!!
i am also very proud of the friends that i have that are "brits" and "scots" they are all very strong fighters (got into a bar fight with two of my friends from manchester, lets just say im glad they were there, i wouldnt want these two guys as enemys!!LOL)
i have never had a bad expierence meeting brits, they are great people and very proud and have a long history on this planet. i heard irish people are the same way
i just dont like it when people sterio type groups as all the same THEY ARE NOT!! there are jerks and idiots in every race on this planet. i have met people from iraq and iran that are just like me, all they want to do is live life and raise there familys quietly. thats the advantage we have now in the 21st century, even more so here in the US cuz we have people from ALL walks of life liveing here (im sure its the same way in the UK)
we all just need to get along
Originally posted by woodwardjnr
Remember Haydn17 is a proud member of the English Defence league so I'm sure he has all his facts correct and history in check, despite providing sources for his historical information
Originally posted by tooo many pills
Haha that first page was great!
Thank you for trying to educate us on the U.K. or was it Britain? I am even more confused now. At least I learned some English History. The only thing they taught us about England in the public schools of America was that you guys were the best at imperialism and taxed us without representation. But at least we both speak English right? Or, do English people consider America’s language American?
Anyway good effort!
Originally posted by Merriman Weir
Whilst I support the general premise of this, OP, I do hope some American doesn't come along and gives you a lesson on how to spell 'Britain' and 'Northern Ireland'.
Also, I've long found out that most Americans don't really care anyway, even if they tend to try and use British history as a basis for what evil, cold-blooded bastards we all are. I've been down this route many times myself. I can't count the amount of times I've had to point out to Cardiac Celts whose great-great-grandfather once spent the day in Dublin that the English are rarely to blame in the way that they'd like to. That, in fact, the English are the ones that have been historically #ed over in ways that Celts don't really appreciate.
[edit on 3-4-2010 by Merriman Weir]
Originally posted by Haydn_17
Im fed up with quite a few americans not knowing anything about us, i know Texas is a state, why dont you realise Wales, scotland and northern island is part of Britian?
Ok this is your lesson on the British Isles, for quite a few americans who on ats who doesnt know what or where britain is.
The Romans invaded Britian in 43AD, Great Britain had already frequently been the target of invasions, planned and actual, by forces of the Roman Republic and Roman Empire..
British resistance was led by Togodumnus and Caratacus, sons of the late king of the Catuvellauni, Cunobelinus. A substantial British force met the Romans at a river crossing thought to be near Rochester on the River Medway. The battle raged for two days. Hosidius Geta was almost captured, but recovered and turned the battle so decisively that he was awarded the ornamenta triumphalia.
The British were pushed back to the Thames. The Romans pursued them across the river causing them to lose men in the marshes of Essex.
And so the time of Roman Britain began..
Their rule officially began in AD 43 and ended in 410
449AD Saxons arrive in England
The newcomers spoke their own languages, which in time became a language now known as Anglo-Saxon or Old English. The Anglo-Saxons themselves called it 'Englisc'. The country taken over by the new settlers became 'England'.
516AD The Britons under a unknowen leader defeat the Saxons at Mount Badon
597AD Christianity spreads across England
1066AD William of Normandy is crowned King of England
1100AD Henry I Is crowned King of England
1114AD Henry I Invades Wales forcing Gwynedd to submit
Speeding things up now
1305AD William Wallace is executed by the English
1607AD Named for King James I of England, Jamestown was founded in the Virginia Colony on May 14, 1607
2003AD Britian joins the US on an Invasion of Iraq
2004AD 10 New states join the European Union
So thats a brief history.
Britian is: Wales, Scotland, Northern Island
Britian has around 14 overseas territories remaining from the Empire.
British Virgin Islands
Remember this thread before you ask if Scotland is part of the UK
[edit on 3-4-2010 by Haydn_17]
Originally posted by tooo many pills
Or, do English people consider America’s language American?
Originally posted by jpmail
Fisrt off I have to admit not knowing much about America past a bit of history and some of constitution. ohh and that I love tinkies and wendy's.
I tend to learn only that which seems relevent in my life like friends in Calafornia and Utha but as and when I need more info I will learn it. So why should Americans be expected to know everything about the UK history and culture?
Now the post that Haydn-17 put on is just a small part of the history of the UK and each date he listed is a sage unto its self. As a small Island nation the UK has a fansatic amount of history and its impact on the globe has been nothing short of amazing until the last 60 or 70 years.
I would like to add that the Scottish, Irish and Welsh have never felt or fell part of the UK. Ask most of us where we are from and we will not say the UK but we will give our respective country of birth be it Scotland, Irleand or Wales.
I worked in a call centre about 10 years ago before to outsourcing to India and English people would go mental if they got through to a "scots" speaking call centre and they would demand an English speaking person.
Some English people think that going North is going from London to the Lake district and that there nothing above that but us Scots with our hills, bagpipes, sheep and haggis.
So to single out Americans is totally wrong in my opinion ignorance is part of us all its only when we admit it and learn something new can we deny that ignorance.
Originally posted by CRB86
What a thoroughly depressing thread.