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posted on Apr, 3 2010 @ 05:37 AM
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The latest most indepth taped radio interview of length ONE HOUR and FORTY-NINE MINUTES of Sam Kennedy and others in the Guardians of the Free republic and the Restore America Plan is entitled "De Jure Grand Jury- Presentment March 29th 2010- Restore America Project" (dated March 30, 2010) and can be found at YouTube link:

www.youtube.com...

The Restore America Plan is a WORLDWIDE effort sue to intertwined economies of the world's nations. The plan was 10-years in the making. It is was not initiated, G21-top clearance military source assured Dr. Kennedy last September that "the World would have ended".




posted on Apr, 3 2010 @ 06:08 AM
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Why is the leader of the movement associated to some of the major corporations in the country? The same companies, he claims, are orchestrating a rape and pillage campaign across the country.

US Department of Defense is among the associates too.

And before you say, "it's not that Clive", it is. The information is legit and most conspiracy sites are confused how a South African (specialised in anti-terrorism and CEO to major security firm in California) is the grand tutelage of American freedom and architect of the movement. Hmmm.

[edit on 3-4-2010 by infinite]



posted on Apr, 3 2010 @ 07:15 AM
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Originally posted by infinite
reply to post by Toot Sweet
 


Why is the leader of the movement associated to some of the major corporations in the country? The same companies, he claims, are orchestrating a rape and pillage campaign across the country.

US Department of Defense is among the associates too.

And before you say, "it's not that Clive", it is. The information is legit and most conspiracy sites are confused how a South African (specialised in anti-terrorism and CEO to major security firm in California) is the grand tutelage of American freedom and architect of the movement. Hmmm.

[edit on 3-4-2010 by infinite]



I won't pretend to have any information on your question above.


IMHO maybe sometimes you have to become a key player in the system to take it down. We will see.



peace.



posted on Apr, 3 2010 @ 08:45 AM
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Excellent work you have done there. I would also like to add that the 210 address doesn't appear to exist, and that his "company" has been on hold since 2003. I went to the area on Google Earth and there is literally.. nothing there.. it looks to be a plot of land at the end of a dirt road.

The information that you posted though, fascinating links, if true, but remember, this guy is tooting his own horn, and anyone who has written a resume understands how to sell themselves.

Most of his websites seem to be just that, a self agrandizing resume.


Gorilla warfare? Really? Heh.

Ironically he spelled it the right way only a few lines down.

The more of a picture that you get of this guy, the wierder and further out there he gets.

Oh, and I saw reference from Clive somewhere along the way to his father, Frank Boustred, as well. Haven't gotten that far yet, though.



posted on Apr, 3 2010 @ 08:59 AM
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Originally posted by endisnighe
reply to post by daddio
 


As I have told you before also, the courts do not seem to understand thisl. Just because I and You and others know it to be true, does not mean that the government follows the rules. So if you are talking to me, I have already absorbed the info, but why should people that do not know be forced to a de facto contract that they do not even know exists?

So, instead of yelling. Leave a nice info comment with your normal links and move on.


I wan't yelling, I seldom do. Just want people to understand what it is that is going on and has been going on and a peaceful alternative to breaking the bank and restoring the republic or federation of states.

If we, as Sovereign, flesh and blood living souls, do not correct the assumption the federal or state government has in regards to what and who we truly are, then they will continue usurping and subjecting us to "their" rules and regulations. Public policy IS NOT actually for the public but for the corporate fictions which we all have been made into. It's all about control and always has been. REMOVE THE CONTROL FACTOR and we remove any control THEY have OVER us and WE become the MASTERS again.

Personal Responsibility is very important.

The one true Common law of God/Nature/Man is "Do unto others..." Which means do not infringe on any other peoples rights, life, liberty or property ever and we will all be free from constraint and "government" control which is the way it should be. We do not NEED a license to do anything but must respect the environment and the people around us. Take ONLY that which you need to survive and replace what you can. If we help each other out in this way, we do not need big government making 60 million useless and worthless "laws" or corporate policy, which is exactly what they are.

There are many politicians who would like to do the right thing and stand down, but are intimidated by the Elite to do their bidding. This stems from the "Secret Societies" and their desire to control the world, being used by the Rothschilds and the other families. History definitely repeats itself in the hopes that enough of us wake up from the dream and set the record straight. DEMAND that TPTB stand down and let them know who and what you are, a Flesh and Blood Living Soul and not their slave or corporate fiction.

WE have the power, but most do not know how to use it or enforce it properly or with tenacity.



posted on Apr, 3 2010 @ 09:29 AM
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Nicely put together post here. Read all of it, very well done. Hope others read it as well. Understand your Divinity and Dominion. IT is yours but you must stand up and state so.



posted on Apr, 3 2010 @ 09:32 AM
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Google Earth of his "company"

You are right, nothing there.

As for the company, some bizarre variables I've notice; it's two separate organisations doing the exact same thing


Search through the allege customers, none of them mention STRATEGIZE or the other business. I've just noticed coppercards.com, a third under his name


According to analytical internet tools, himself and these companies have only appeared from April 1 on wards. For an allege high profile association's to major firms, his name is only recent in the public domain.

The internet has no information, web pages, news stories or documentation before March 31st.


[edit on 3-4-2010 by infinite]



posted on Apr, 3 2010 @ 09:34 AM
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I don't think they will lose the backing of the military, Ionized. Remember Operation Northwoods, in which the Joint Chiefs of Staff planned to organise terrorist attacks on the U.S. and blame it on Cuba? Treason and terror are all in a day's work for these people...

...actually better make that "a morning's work," as they finish at lunchtime and go and play golf in the afternoons.



posted on Apr, 3 2010 @ 09:58 AM
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reply to post by infinite
 


I am just posting this as a 'think out loud' exercise, trying to understand the connections that you and Libertygal have uncovered about this Clive guy. Please excuse any mistakes here, but so far you both have discovered that:

1) Information about him only appeared on the internet just this week, at the same time that the declaration was served.

2) the information found by tracing his websites allegedly ties him to DHS and large corporations. (note: www.gotfr.org is the original website that has been in existence for at least two months, however I noticed www.gotfr.COM appeared just this week, to my knowledge anyhow, i just noticed it this week, so are you tracing the right domain?)

3) it is being alleged that this is the guy who is behind the entire Restore America Plan (though I still do not get where this part is surmised, at all....)


So, a spoof site is created by DHS and setup to look just like the original site (gotfr.com appeared just this week, to my knowledge, and is spoofing the original gotfr.org)

Tracing the spoof site shows ties to government ip addresses and some guy named Clive who is allegedly tied to DHS and large corporations.

This would lead people who do not realize it is a spoof site that showed up on the internet this week, to conclude that maybe DHS is behind this whole restore america plan, and that sam kennedy, tim turner, and the other 2 'elders' are simply government agents, all working for DHS in order to round up at least 26 people in each state, and then hundreds of others who will later be willing to sign the declaration?

It sounds to me like you may have uncovered an attempt to discredit the movement.

edit: please excuse any mistakes in my understanding of what you both are saying, as your information is spread between all the threads and has not really been directly worded into a concise, encompassing theory in a single post. If I am misunderstanding what websites you guys are tracing, and how this Clive guy is allegedly behind the entire restore america plan, then it is because this has not been clearly stated.

edit2: see this post for Libertygal response clearing up my incorrect presumptions about her research: www.abovetopsecret.com...

[edit on 3-4-2010 by Ionized]



posted on Apr, 3 2010 @ 10:19 AM
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It's awesome that you can parallel the news on this site & see what's happening on TPTB's news sites. It truly is as if we're watching two locomotives barreling towards each other. You know what they say about train wrecks ~ You can never pull your eyes away.

After watching the video of the man speaking about the Open Carry Rally at the capitols. He mentions that he may not be able to afford the trip, like most of us. What if, for those of us who still want to demonstrate our patriotism & total disgust, boycott Wal-Mart that day? Could you imagine all the empty isles April 19th? Wait a minute, that almost makes me want to go on that day ....



posted on Apr, 3 2010 @ 10:20 AM
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I finally found a post that gives some credence to my suspicions that GUardians of the Free Republics hijacked the Continental Congress plan for April 19th.

I would still like to see a more official response, perhaps on the cc2009 website, but this is all I have for the moment.


www.dailypaul.com...

www.dailypaul.com...-1398526


The Articles of Freedom are not being 'sent' out to anyone.
Submitted by Anisha on Sat, 04/03/2010 - 10:56.


They will be hand delivered to each and every elected official April 19th after ceremonies at State Capitols across U.S.

I am MN State Coordinator for Articles of Freedom. Any 'letters' being sent out to elected officials by us are simply giving a head's up for the 19th and asking each one to meet with us in their respective rotundas after ceremonies. They will each be served this 65 page document and must sign receipt.

These 'Guardians of the Republic' are highly suspicious in the way they are attempting to usurp our 'due process of Constitutional law' efforts here.

The elders are Jimmy Carter, Nelson Mandela etc these are tri lateral commission people, these are the 'front' guys for the world bankers.

It appears they are using 'military' type deception tactics just as they did for 9/11, OK bomber, etc. They install a 'copy cat' type operation that causes people to be 'confused'. Please be aware of these 'tactics'. They are NOT transparent with the public. That is very,very telling.

Please know each and every American is personally responsible for their own due diligence, the political power is VESTED in each citizen, hence the Articles of Freedom allow for signing of the pledge.

You also know all the players, the organization We The People Foundation, the 14 egregious violations to the Constitution going back almost 100 years, Continental Congress 2009, what are the goals, non-violent participation, etc

Once millions sign on we will have the 'people power' that produce 'the bite' we need to put this government back under the law!

Due process of law is what will 'chain' all those who are acting outside the law. The 'teeth' are the non-violent civic actions, and 'the bite' is when you have 5% of our entire population acting in unison to withhold financial resources from the government until it is replaced back under the 'rule of law' throughout our entire bicameral system.

The bankers usurped the entire system over the years. The Articles of Freedom is a legal vehicle that when served to elected officials is putting each 'on notice' to cease and desist anything they are doing that is unconstitutional. They must follow through or else our entire system will shut down until all government is back under the law.

Americans, you must never, ever allow others to 'rescue' our country on your behalf. The power is vested in YOU! These guardians are acting in a 'rogue' fashion that is attempting to 'distract' you from exercising something powerful that is yours - vested interest- with your signature on the pledge.

That is a powerful act under our Constitutional law. But it requires a 'conscious' public to participate in it in order that due process be respected.

This is the death knell for world government. It will shut down the Federal Reserve. It will mean many in our government who have served outside interests will have to leave the country or face prosecution!!!

Please understand how extremely important this is. Do not be fooled by these 'tactics'.

Each American is being 'called' to do their 'due diligence' as legal citizens. Please sign the pledge.


www.CC2009.us

www.articlesoffreedom.us

Bob Schulz 165 minute Webinar
www.republicmagazine.com...




[edit on 3-4-2010 by Libertygal]



posted on Apr, 3 2010 @ 10:38 AM
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Here we go, the letters sent out by cc2009. There is a link to the pdf file from their website:

www.wethepeoplefoundation.org...
(scroll about halfway down the page)


“Hold on, my friends, to the Constitution and the Republic
for which it stands.  Miracles do not cluster, and what has happened
once in 6,000 years, may not happen again. Hold on to the
Constitution, for if the American Constitution should fail,
there will be anarchy throughout the world.” Daniel Webster


March 27, 2010

Sen. Kirsten E. Gillibrand
Leo W. O’Brien Federal Office Bldg
1 Clinton Square, Room 821
Albany, NY 12207

Re: Delivery of the Articles of Freedom-April 19, 2010

Dear Senator Gillibrand:

On April 19, 2010, at 9 AM HST, 11 AM AKDT, 12 Noon PDT & MST, 1 PM MDT, 2 PM CDT, 3 EDT, groups of people will gather in the capital cities of all fifty states for the purpose of serving the Articles of Freedom on their two United States Senators, their member of the United States House of Representatives whose district includes their State Capital City, their Governor and the leaders of each house of their State Legislature.

The Articles of Freedom are the works of the Continental Congress 2009, a group of 116 citizen-delegates from 48 states who met in St. Charles, Illinois for eleven days in November (www.articlesoffreedom.us). Their purpose was to discuss fourteen major violations of the U. S. Constitution and to recommend a course of action to restore constitutional governance in America. The Articles of Freedom are rooted in the Constitution and provide remedial instructions to the federal and state governments.

On April 19, the people will participate in a brief ceremony that will include a prayer, the singing of the National Anthem, the Pledge of Allegiance, the American’s Creed, the Preamble of the Articles of Freedom, a Rededication to the Constitution and a Pledge to Hold Elected Officials Accountable to their Oaths of Office. Then, we wish to formally present you or your representative with your official copy of the Articles of Freedom. Should you decide that you are not able to attend, the People will walk to your office to deliver them.

We look forward to hearing from you at Bob@GiveMeLiberty.org, 518-656-3578.

Sincerely,


Robert L. Schulz, First Delegate-New York
John Wallace, Second Delegate-New York
William Berg, Third Delegate-New York
Continental Congress 2009



posted on Apr, 3 2010 @ 10:53 AM
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Originally posted by Ionized
It sounds to me like you may have uncovered an attempt to discredit the movement.


As others have said, in Ron Paul forums and sister sites, the whole activity of this group is suspicious. In the last 24 hours, Clive Boustre has been announced as the leader on a dozen front sites.

In my opinion, I doubt he even exists-in this capacity. I located a news story, back in 2006, in the area (Clive Boustre claims to live) and it was about an illegal "myspace" party. He sounded more like an adolescent frat boy, instead of the ring leader of a national conspiracy movement.

I doubt the guardians of the free republics and their, allege, military links even exist.

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posted on Apr, 3 2010 @ 10:58 AM
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I will be seriously amazed if those who served the Governor's of all 50 states do not find themselves either locked up, or killed, because the Government will see this as a serious threat.

No matter what the F.B.I. tells the Federal Government, they are digging.

Digging to find out exactly who would have the balls to challenge the Federal Government.

I have to say it's about time people actually got off their collective keister's.

All you need is fifty-one people, to take the United States back.

Fifty people, men or women, to fill the offices of Governor, and one person for President.

Vote those 50 people out of office, or remove them legally, not violent action.

But legal action through legal proceedings.

I have always wondered at the rather ignorant mentality of speaking towards violence, with regards to overthrowing Government, by speaking of picking up guns, or threat of violence with explosives, or a noose.

Give me fifty people and I can take America by peaceful, passive, and political coup.

Do I need to be the President?

No.

Do I want to be President?

No.

Do you want me as President?

No clue.

I say no there because I know damn good and well what it takes to run that office.

It takes knowing that both political parties are chocked full of ignorant people.

Not all of them, but a large majority, for various reasons.

It takes listening to the people with a poll of the entire country.

Not a sampling poll, that does not get all voices, not all demographics are hit.

It takes not taking lobbyist nor special interest groups money.

Not one penny or dime from anyone who seeks to curry political favors.

It takes actually firing people when jobs are not done to the satisfaction of citizens.

Not sitting, not stalling, not pandering to partisan politics, and not wasting precious time with speeches, but with actual action, which is called management.

The President of the United States of America is equal to a manager of a corporation, and we as citizens are the shareholders, not those corporations approaching him to run the country in their best interests, but our best interests, as shareholders who want to see our stock value rise.

We want our country involved in less foreign policy matters, and take care of our own people.

We want our country involved is less political scandals, and more positive actions, making an actual change, not speaking mere rhetoric for a politician to hear him or herself speak, because action speaks louder than words.

Enough of the cotton candy words, enough of the gumdrops dreams that rot our brains, and enough of the rainbow smiles, trying to please everyone else.

Obamaland : Cotton Candy, Gumdrops, and Rainbow Dreams, This is the Land of Collusion

[edit on 3-4-2010 by SpartanKingLeonidas]



posted on Apr, 3 2010 @ 10:58 AM
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Well, I did notice that before, Boondock, but it did not cause me any concern. I admit I am uninformed when it comes to military matters--I had thought those 3 were mentioned ONLY because they were the highest official in their respective divisions. Am I wrong? Plus it then mentions others (in the Robert Gates' clause)...



posted on Apr, 3 2010 @ 10:59 AM
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Thanks for the link to that video, Toot. In it, the alleged Sam Kennedy, has a very good discussion. Let me embed it here:


Libertygal, I finally understand what you mean about the Continental Congress, and how the Restore America Plan seems to have moved forward just before their own implementation. Tim Turner had mentioned during the past couple months talk shoe episodes that there was some strife between differing groups, though it was very vague. Perhaps he meant strife between the Continental Congress group, and the people behind the Restore America Plan. And it seems that the RAP group had an urgent need to move before April, allegedly because before mid-April, Mr. Obama would be signing UN treaties which would have made the whole RAP plan obsolete. The specific treaties where not given name. And yes, I don't like calling it TRAP LOL, if it is a trap, I have been hooked.



posted on Apr, 3 2010 @ 11:13 AM
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Originally posted by Ionized
The specific treaties where not given name.


It is because the "treaties" do not exist.

The only UN Treaty is Cluster Munitions, which the United States is not signing.

UN Cluster Munitions Treaty April 1st 2010


I've searched through the United Nations system, that is the only treaty scheduled to come into force.

But, I will correct my mistakes. I'll take back my comment about the mother of all false flags, this is more likely to be a hoax. Turner (believe that is his name) is probably trying to cover up and alter the anticipation created by this story.

There is no evidence, from my point of view, of DHS or any government involvement.



posted on Apr, 3 2010 @ 11:18 AM
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It is my opinion that boondock has misinterpreted why those 'jewish' names were in the document.

They are not being named in the document as supporters in the plan: they have simply been named in the warrant and are being 'ordered' to comply with the warrant, just as the names of the 50 Governors are being ordered.



posted on Apr, 3 2010 @ 11:29 AM
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Originally posted by Ionized
reply to post by infinite
 


I am just posting this as a 'think out loud' exercise, trying to understand the connections that you and Libertygal have uncovered about this Clive guy. Please excuse any mistakes here, but so far you both have discovered that:

1) Information about him only appeared on the internet just this week, at the same time that the declaration was served.



Nope, I found a lot more. The gotfr website is new, however, less than 3 months old.



2) the information found by tracing his websites allegedly ties him to DHS and large corporations. (note: www.gotfr.org is the original website that has been in existence for at least two months, however I noticed www.gotfr.COM appeared just this week, to my knowledge anyhow, i just noticed it this week, so are you tracing the right domain?)

3) it is being alleged that this is the guy who is behind the entire Restore America Plan (though I still do not get where this part is surmised, at all....)



The information about DHS didn't come from tracing the websites, but from reading info ABOUT Boustard, written BY Boustard, touting his "clients" and alleged employers and contracts. There is no proof of this beyond his words, and some logos pasted on one of his many websites.

Here:libertyforlife.com...

Guardians of the Free Republics -
CopperCards++ - THE SOLUTION MATERIALIZES. As we speak across every Republic of the Union, Grand Juries are forming to recover America. The Restore America Plan with the internal backing and support of our military is utilizing true law to indict the bankers and corporate government and shut down the criminal enterprise that controls our courts and government. This is an astonishing movement and the fruition of the efforts and work of many of us Patriots who love and respect the Constitution for the United States of America. People who respect the sovereignty of we the people over and above that of the government, and the fact that our government employees are our servants under our authority should sign up today. This movement will rapidly bring back liberty!



Not to mention, he is the website owner and registrant of Guardians Of The Free Repulics website. If you go to www.gotfr.com, you see this:


Note www.gotfr.org and gotfr.com link to this site, these links are for convenience.



A simple perusing of his website reveals in his language and style, and makes it very simple to see he is largely the main promoter behind this, the "brains" of the operation, if you will.

He has been pushing Sovereign Citizenship, which is the basis behind the gotfr movement, for quite some time, including providing legal advice to people on how to fight the government. Simply reading his Coppercards website will reveal he has been at this a long while. I even posted a link from Ron Paul's website from 2008 about Copper Cards.



So, a spoof site is created by DHS and setup to look just like the original site (gotfr.com appeared just this week, to my knowledge, and is spoofing the original gotfr.org)

Tracing the spoof site shows ties to government ip addresses and some guy named Clive who is allegedly tied to DHS and large corporations.



I disagree this is a spoof site.

All the site pointers go back to gotfr, and the same text is on all of them.

The traceroutes I did were on the snardfarker.com website that resolves to 21260.org, which was only in answer to a post that someone claimed was attempting to "poison" the Guardians of The Free Republics movement.

I feel that I proved it was a citizen from Michigan with questionable location very near to the Van Buren's Sheriff Department in Lawrence Township. But, lots of people live near Sheriff Departments, it just curious, is all.

The two people have nothing to do with each other, except that the Michigan person may well be either related to Alex Jones, or making an attempt to market off his name, OR involved in law enforcement.

There is no conclusive evidence, just inconclusive evidence from the website linking him to Alex Jones, and he shares the same surname. Yet, he advertises Alex Jones a *lot*. Is he perhaps related?

He has *nothing* to do with Clive, however, except that snardfarker posted a message about the gotfr that was not so supportive.



This would lead people who do not realize it is a spoof site that showed up on the internet this week, to conclude that maybe DHS is behind this whole restore america plan, and that sam kennedy, tim turner, and the other 2 'elders' are simply government agents, all working for DHS in order to round up at least 26 people in each state, and then hundreds of others who will later be willing to sign the declaration?



Again, I do not believe gotfr is a spoofed site. I think Boustard has a T1 connection, and markets out webhosting. I think Boustard is a loud tooter of his own horn, and hosts a *great* number of websites, which happen to all be about him.

I think Boustard is being shielded from being revealed as a link to gotfr because he has a somewhat.. mmm shall we say, "different" history.

I found lots of info on him, Telysys goes back far before 2003.



It sounds to me like you may have uncovered an attempt to discredit the movement.

edit: please excuse any mistakes in my understanding of what you both are saying, as your information is spread between all the threads and has not really been directly worded into a concise, encompassing theory in a single post. If I am misunderstanding what websites you guys are tracing, and how this Clive guy is allegedly behind the entire restore america plan, then it is because this has not been clearly stated.

[edit on 3-4-2010 by Ionized]


Nope, I think thats not what I found, at least.

As for Boustard's links to those other companies, all we have is his claims on his multitudinous websites. Lets see some phone directories of corporate statements with his name, or some sorts of documents with him displayed by these corporations or government institutions.

As of yet, all we are able to verify is that he is a paper tiger, a *huge* proponent of the Sovereign Citizen movement that has never formally been educated in American Law, and he studied law on his on, mostly while he is in jail, one could presume, as many criminals do, in an attempt to get out of jail on technicalities.

The earliest mention I was able to find of him was from some time in 1997, iirc.



posted on Apr, 3 2010 @ 11:36 AM
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These people are mentioned in the papers NOT as members of the movement but as people being served.

If you are going to post something, provide links.

From this link-The unanimous Declaration of the sovereign People of the united States of America to restore and reinhabit the free American republics.
Delivered to the Governors of the 50 States March 29, 2010


Here is the excerpt you are speaking of-


It is so ordered year of our Lord two thousand and ten by the affixing hereto of each state's signatories numbering at least twenty-six souls, duly comprising the Page 8 of 20
De jure Grand Juries of the free American republics pursuant to The unanimous Declaration of the
General Orders
Norton A. Schwartz, a man occupying the office of Chief of Staff, United States Air Force, and all successors thereto
James T. Conway, a man occupying the office of Commandant of the Marine Corps, and all successors thereto
Robert Gates, a man doing business as United States Secretary of Defense, and all successors thereto Jane/John Doe, men and women occupying the offices of the United States armed forces and/or Department of Defense and to
all others to whom these orders must necessarily apply …
Whereas the People of the free American republics have been under military occupation since 1861 and various persistent unlawful States of National Emergency having been declared and perpetuated without interruption since 1933 such that “freedoms and governmental procedures guaranteed by the Constitution have, in varying degrees, been abridged by laws brought into force by states of national emergency” (para. 1, Introduction, Report 93-549 of the Special Committee on the Termination of the National Emergency, United States Senate, November 19, 1973)



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