Originally posted by endisnighe
reply to post by Habit4ming
I am thinking of making another thread on just the movement, with again all the links and info that back it up. Since all of the threads are getting huge again. So much info.
It would appear more that they are trying to keep the fact that Clive is involved hidden. This leads one to ask a simple question. Why?
My attitude is wary, cautious, and suspicious, not unforgiving. People have a background, and regardless of forgiving them, it sure doesn't mean to blindly forget.
Why is it that every time something that is alleged to be "good for us" gets funnelled into somehow putting money into someone elses pocket?
(15) “United States” means—
(A) a Federal corporation;
(a)When used in this title, where not otherwise distinctly expressed or
manifestly incompatible with the intent thereof—
.....(30) United States person
.....The term “United States person” means—
..........(A) a citizen or resident of the United States,
..........(B) a domestic partnership,
..........(C) a domestic corporation,
..........(D) any estate (other than a foreign estate, within the meaning of paragraph ..........(31)), and
...............(E) any trust if—
....................(i) a court within the United States is able to exercise primary ....................supervision over the administration of the trust, and
....................(ii) one or more United States persons have the authority to control all ....................substantial decisions of the trust.
Originally posted by XPLodER
reply to post by Habit4ming
i have seen so many people state "im not a lawer"
well im not either and this is a MAJOR point
the people who set this whole corperate scheme rely on that fact
they constructed a new language to keep you in the dark about your real
PERSONAGE AND SOVERIGNTY
funny as it sounds corperate life is all contract law
two small changes are required
1.people must realize the corperate nature of there enslavement because slaves that think there free wont ever strive to be free
2.debt money is the shackles bars and locks that hold us in bondage
its as simple as free soverign free people printing value money for the people
and heres a simple way to look at this fact
THE FIRST GROUP TO BE ISSIUED THE VALUE MONEY ARE THE ONES GETTING ALL THE BENIFIT OF ITS USE
banks get debt money and are alowed to expand its value by fractional reserve banking practice turning debt into more debt but with interest
the poeple are calateral on this transaction/loan
when value money is printed you cannot expand the debt so the value is in the people who are making working and using the currency if you are the calateral how much interest would you charge yourself to borrow against your self ?
well the trick of maths is this story
a wise elder invented a game like chess for a king, the king said how much money would you like for your reward
the wise man said
place one peice of grain in the first square and increase the amount by a factor of three for every square on the board
well the amount owed to the wise man was more grain than in the entire kingdom
this is the effect of fractional reserve banking coupled with compounding interst ever increasing amounts of debt
the EXACT same thing happens with value money except the more the money is spent between people the more it benifits the whole population not the person you owe the debt money debt to (the fed and the banks
Originally posted by ghostsoldier
The only revolution that will solve these issues will be a Marxist revolution, done peacefully on mass and with a vanguard protecting them and furthering the cause.
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