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US Congress Green Lights Domestic Terrorism

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posted on Feb, 23 2010 @ 08:25 AM
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The NWO is a goal they will achive. Many changes like this and worse are going to happen. It has gone too far now. Even if we revolt, they have the camps and a plan in action to stamp out any and all resistance.



posted on Feb, 23 2010 @ 08:43 AM
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Woo Hoo! Well then if this is the case then there's nothing left but to do it to it folks! LEt's get moving and get our coubtry back! Best thing I've heard in a long time!



posted on Feb, 23 2010 @ 09:14 AM
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Don't you believe it.

It's a Trap!



posted on Feb, 23 2010 @ 09:29 AM
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I agree. Seems very....um.....phishy.

It's like the cheater in the fight with the brass knuckles:

"Okay, okay.... I'll give ya da fesrt shawt. Go ahead, tits okay, I'll letcha!"

And just as you swing, he knocks your head off.


Now, if we had some friends in say a nuclear power plant or something and could say with all certainty:

"We represent the mass majority who have decided that under , you are hereby overthrown .........." and warn them that the group are fitted with dead man switches and if ONE person is harmed or interfered with in any way our "friends" at one of the nuclear power plants in this country will cause a major meltdown.

You might make it to the oval orifice, although you'd have to move quite fast. Those Suit types are quick you know


Let me know how that turns out for ya..

By the way, I don't think peace will work either. We need a single simple reason that the people could stand upon/behind/whatever and 'en masse' stage a march on federal buildings of every type throughout the country. You need a symbol that the people will be willing to die for. I don't see the masses doing that any time soon.



posted on Feb, 23 2010 @ 09:40 AM
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Originally posted by antideceit
People keep saying that peacful revolution will accomplish something, but do you believe that federal agents will be peacefull to the people?
They will shoot people dead that are threatening a takeover even if those people are doing it peacfully, just wait and see.....

Go in peacfully, but be prepared to defend your life with deadly force when you are in imminent danger of losing it.


History shows us that peaceful revolution occurs through education.

Gandhi did a fantastic job of helping to bring about peaceful revolution through education and acts of non-violent resistance.

The government loses more credibility by the day as it continues its assaults on peaceful protesters. This is a propaganda war, and as Iraq and Afghanistan show us, you can't win a war for the hearts of the people through bombs and bullets.

When enough people wake up, revolutionary change will be self-sustaining.



posted on Feb, 23 2010 @ 11:06 AM
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You will never change this nation without bloodshed, We the people wanted change and look what the hell they voted for.

As long as the revolutionist stick with the United 50 states of America and do not try to override the original Constitution then it is TOTALLY LEGAL to toss out the current government. The current government trying to stop the revolution makes them enemies of the states, all of them.

First you have war then you have peace.



posted on Feb, 23 2010 @ 11:15 AM
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Education is the key? We have college students here at Miami University (Ohio) that do not look before crossing the street. They are well aware that people driving cars will try not to run them over, if only to avoid damage to their car.

But what would happen if a driver wasn't looking out for little Johnny numb nuts or if a driver just did not care? No amount of education in the world is going to prevent the educated fool from being ran over. Most of the time it would be too late to pull a gun and threaten the driver to stop.

Some would say that a taught and manufactured education is not really overly informative about the ways of the world or the effects of being ran over by a Mack truck. Okay, so we use street smarts then. Suzy stays on the sidewalk, but the traffic will not let her pass.

Resistance to a bad situation is a normal position to be in. Brandishing a gun at the drivers could work, but it could also invite 2.5 tons of bone crushing metal up on the safety of the sidewalk to take down the lone gunman. Likewise holding a peaceful sit-in in the middle of the street.

It takes organization, communication and the ever present alternative to get the attention of the other side. The honest threat (as opposed to hollow) of actual violence and destruction and removal from the position of oppression by an obvious and overwhelming force rates on the scale.

Ghandi was successful in organizing the people into what would have been, to use my above example, a group that could have sledgehammered the Bently into a very expensive paperweight in a moments notice. For the Brits to have mowed him down would have had the look of intention vehicular manslaughter in the world court of public opinion. Ghandi was not riding his bicycle alone off the sidewalk in front of a moving bus. People also forget the part about Ghandi having his men mowed down repeatedly in front gate on his order carrying nothing but clubs. Nothing bloodless and peaceful about that.

Ghandi was pretty much like that prick kid that waits for a long line of traffic to go by and then runs out in front of the last car in the line. Pretty much a daily thing here in Oxford.



posted on Feb, 23 2010 @ 11:28 AM
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Oh good, more armchair revolutionary talk. "BURN THE COUNTRY! Ill join you as soon as American Idol is over!"

Bunch of crap!

It's never going to happen, ever, just get over it, vote for real independents and help fix the damn country. It's hard work, and you won't get to see someone getting their head blown off, but in the end it will be better for everyone.



posted on Feb, 23 2010 @ 12:07 PM
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Originally posted by Sky watcher
You will never change this nation without bloodshed, We the people wanted change and look what the hell they voted for.


I would argue that real change can only occur without bloodshed.

The Declaration of Independence and the Constitution serve as hammers that can be beaten over the heads of our tyrant politicans, but if there is anything the past century has taught us, its that war does not bring about societal change.

WWII did not end the Soviet empire, nor did it bring down the Berlin Wall.

WWI did not change the German disposition to empire, and it gave rise to Hitler through the destruction of the German economy.

WWII did not suddenly make Germans love the rest of Europe after its conclusion, the education of what the German state did during the war and the elimination of the German propaganda machine did that.

Vietnam did not change the North Vietnamese disposition to communism.

The Korean war did not change the North Korean disposition to communism.

War does not bring about philisophical and social change.

War is wholly destructive and is the health of the State.

Acts of violence empower the State.



posted on Feb, 23 2010 @ 12:31 PM
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Lets take an example.

What is a more effective means of destroying the fascist state?

Getting a quarter of the tax payers to stop paying taxes, along with refusing to convict their fellow citizens of not paying them.

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Getting a quarter of the people to violently revolt against the federal government?

Hmmmm...

To me it would seem that not only is getting a quarter of the tax payers to refuse paying their taxes a far more manageable goal, it also doesn't involve killing anyone, yet its results would be superior to violent action.

Non-violent resistance can be a far more effective means of ending tyranny than violence.

That's just one possible example out of many.




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