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when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.
He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.
He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.
He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.
He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil Power.
He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:
For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:
For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:
For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Trial by Jury:
For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences:
I have read and have placed what is called critical thought into what I wrote. I applied what was said and how you responded.
Originally posted by MasterJedi
reply to post by mnemeth1
Excellently stated, I wish I could flag your replies.
Yeah, I'd bet he does receive our money in some fashion as well... But hopefully we can find the few who truly understand what governments role should be and put them in office. Unfortunately they have a huge amount of work to accomplish just in undoing the wrongs currently in place.
Originally posted by MasterJedi
Therefore if you should be hurt/killed in the line of fire, you are no "innocent" fodder, but rather a knowing and accepted member of an occupying dictatorship.
Is it moral to put a gun to a citizens head, take his money, along with a cut for yourself, then hand the remainder to a starving mother?
Originally posted by MasterJedi
I refer back to my example of working for a company that steals from its patrons... At least in that case the patrons have a choice of establishments. Whereas we have no choice in whether we pay the government.
Originally posted by undo
reply to post by SpectreDC
i ask the same question to you then: why do men kill women? surely we could FIX it. what do you propose? in the meantime, we should applaud women who kill men because it's getting a point across? hello earth to person who is clearly living in eye for an eye territory somewhere in your mind, that whole karmic cycle thing can take a flying leap.
when you have a problem, you address the problem causer. not his employees, the guy who mows his yard, the dude who makes the parts that open his garage door, or the nurse who resuscitated him. for this reason, we only put the shooter in jail, not the shooter and the gun shop owner, gas station owner and janitor.
Originally posted by Iamonlyhuman
You always have a choice in whether you pay the government! You pay them because you don't like the alternative of going to jail if you don't.
Originally posted by mnemeth1
reply to post by buttking
You act as if government is the only mechanism that can prevent impoverished mothers from starving.
I reject your argument.
Is it moral to put a gun to a citizens head, take his money, along with a cut for yourself, then hand the remainder to a starving mother?
[edit on 21-2-2010 by mnemeth1]