Originally posted by neformore
Except its not a call for censorship. Its not a call to not be skeptical.
Seems like one...but I take your word for it...you say its not agaisnt arrogance or "assness:, I say ok.
I think we both "don't want" overly hateful or trolling people around here, so ok, got it.
Its is a call for personal restraint and civility.
And I think there is a huge level of that all over ATS.
Perhaps "we all" are a little spoiled with this enviroment. This site has the best interacting crowd I have ever witnessed...seeing the subjects at
hand, it is doubly as shocking to see that same crowd remain as "civil" as it is.
Yes, a few bad apples come and go...but over all we make out like bandits on the whole "good forum crowd" thing.
Its a call for decent discussion without resorting to schoolyard barbs and taunts.
Dangerously close to stepping on my bread and butter there...but I get what you mean.
There is a massive difference. I'm sure you can see that.
Yup yup mucky pup!
And what if that arrogance breeds its own kind of self perpetuating ignorance where the essence of the subject matter gets diluted to a point where
those who are genuinely interested in it just don't bother to post anymore because they are tired of the arrogant replies they get?
What if demonizing good old fashioned rhetoric and jib actually hurts the forum, making people leave in thinking they are being "singled out for
being loud and flashy"?
What if ATS began removing all posts that had barbs or sarcasm as a foundation?
What if arrogant people then started considering this site unwelcoming to their kind, and they just didn't to post relevant conspiracy information
here because they feared intolerance?
Then ATS would be the most boring piece of crud on the net.
It is already one of the most "civil" forums I've ever seen...no need to remove its tangy side.
Diet-ATS not a good flavor.
When I actually say that being an arrogant skeptic is a crime, I'll be sure to do that.
Are you trying to say this thread is not about "skeptics" who are "asses"?
What I have said is that there are degrees of skepticism. You've taken it further than that.
And one degree of skeptic seems to be "unwanted" by you and singled out in this thread.
That is my point.
You'll be waiting a long time then.
Its cool...I got time.
Nope. I used a generally accepted internet term that can be found in the urban dictionary that refers to large online ego's.
Making a reference to my ego is not acceptable if you name it after my penis.
I dunno if you are a younger fellah who thinks hip slang like that floats with us older types...but I assure you, it doesn't.
Take my advice, try not slanging that one too often around here if you can.
The term is not as "welcomed" and "accepted" as you think it is.
Lord knows I am dodging a few terms of slang I find "appropriate" in my house, but know them unfit for this forum.
Remember when you said
Well actually you can. Your ego prevents you from not doing so.
Actually it is your ego that makes you assume why I am so uppity about attacking hoaxers.
I'd say loosing a life-long friend to a cult of Vampires who took all his money (and countless others) is the catalyst for my scorn.
Add to that "this vampire cult" is now nationwide and extremely wealthy and growing (on suckered idiot's money no less), and you have my REAL
reason for battling "unhealthy" cults,hoaxes,scams both online and off.
I even do public speaking on the matter...so there ya go! Insight, so you can make accurate assumptions in the future when judging my motivations.
But hey...you are not a psychologist, so I can't blame you for being wrong again.
Now, I have to say that you appear to have taken this thread very personally.
I am sure you saw the thread I posted less then 20 hours before this one? Yeah...it was the same thread but it was calling "ass skeptics a good
thing" and defending them agaisnt being trolls.
Yeah...yknow...spent 8 hours making a poster for it (wasted expensive time), got over 7 appluads for it (from mods who didn't move it), 100+ stars,
and 75 flags (in under 10 hours).
Anyways...my thread was moved to BTS...it was better then this one, with professional art and a very similar thought behind it.
Yet...mine is gone (never mind it was the number one thread that day and made the front page at #1 for almost 24 hours) in BTS hell with no one to
return it here.
Yet...you post, that attacks skeptics with attitude remains right here...displayed.
I guess that part is personal...I also think one of two things should result-
You should either move your post to BTS with mine (they would look so adorable together)
You should start figuring out why THIS thread is allowed here but mine was removed.
Go read it...its a "corker" (im told) and got a lot of praise from many mods, admins and users. It was killer...but...yours is still here, mine is
sunk and bunk.
Check it out and see if you feel good about your thread being here, and my "art and hard work" being thrown away, when both our threads are pretty
identical, accept mine took over 9 hours to complete and I put my heart and soul into it in hopes to give this site good content.
ATS Troll or Enemy of Ignorance?
I wish I could apologise for that, but your reaction was your choice. And yes, some of my replies are directed at points you have made, but thats
simply because you made them.
No apologies are ever needed. Save them for people who need them.
You have not attacked me directly or even stepped out of line (cept for the epeen thing, but I'm fine with that).
If you re-read my original post, you'll see that it mentions no names.
But it does detail a concern from a moderator to limit or remove "my kind of posting".
When you write something like that, you must expect some people to stand up and debate this.
Especially when being an "ass" is something we all have a right to be as long as we are in line with the T&C.
Imagine a cop posting all over town that he wished there was a way to remove cigarette smokers from town, because they smelled bad and annoyed him.
Like I said...you are a figure of authority here. Taking a stance like this is sure to arouse a few asses into posting something in reply.
Lord knows we can't have this kind of thing going unchallenged.
Its directed in a very open manner. It was intended as an open discussion. You may, even, - as you put value on them so much - note the stars and
flags it has received as it seems I'm far from alone in my opinion.
Even more reason to be here and open my mouth.
I've seen posts where the OP has claimed to be from Mars, and the thread got double the stars and flags then this one...
What I am saying is...where one sees ignorance growing, its best to arrive and do your duty.
But it is just my opinion, after all.
Glad you admit that...your post made it seem like a factual thing "that all ass-like skeptics are unwanted here".
Again, you have cleared that up...and if you agree there is room for my kind here, then I can't really call you an ass-bigot.
Even though ass-bigot sounds like one hell of a comeback!
If calling for restraint, civility and decorum is a bad thing, then I'm a very wicked person indeed.
And if calling for a deafening storm of truth to descend upon the heads of ALL hoaxers and scam artists is a sin...I am the devil himself.
With that all said...have we met in the middle and built a bridge to understand each other?
If so, I applaud us both.
If not...I swear, I'll summon Phage and tell him you beleive in Nibiru.
[edit on 21-2-2010 by Mr Mask]