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reply posted on 25-4-2010 @ 05:51 AM by Tiger5
I do not like all black people and I do not like all white people.


Well I am an immigrant from a former British colony. I am also black. It is very annoying to hear people banging on about “immigrants”. 30 years ago “immigrants” were a code word for Blacks and Asians. Have things changed now ??? Well they have relations have improved and we get ion fine. Americans visiting the UK are amazed at the way that the races mix.

I love the UK. London is brilliant. It is difficult not to see all that history and not go wow. Naturally the role of black people in British history is of interest. But I am also working class and just enjoy the ordinary history.

I like to visit London but don’t want to live there. I like living out in the country. I once saw 7 bullfinches on a shrub in our garden. Finding a frog is a joy. I suppose I am sad but there you go.

My grandfather fought in the war and was injured. He remembers the “kindness of the Whites” more than the idiots that he had to “thumpdown”.

The BNP are ex NF. The last time that I had a conversation with them One of them was keen to pull out a photo of his wife and kid who were both Indian. What an obvious lie. My conversation was clearly that I have a right to live peacefully in the UK pay my taxes and obey the law. If they choose to attack or harass me then I will break their bodies and then their minds.

The BNP allowing black people in is just a ploy. The black people will become tokens. There are enough sane thinking white people to oppose them.


reply posted on 25-4-2010 @ 06:48 AM by Freeborn
reply to post by Firefly_


There is a very good chance that there will be violent confrontation regardless of how the BNP do in the general election.

The wilful disregard and disdain the major parties have shown to the vast majority of people in this country over legitimate concerns about the levels and type of immigation in this country has ensured that this will be a ticking time bomb for years to come.

I now have to use the all too often but ridiculous disclaimer, I am not a racist but......the cares and concerns of the BRITISH people have become secondary to social engineering exercises and PC do-goodery.
This has resulted in an upsurge in support for the BNP as they WERE the only party who would even discuss immigration openly.
It is now getting more exposure but we still can not have open debates without being slandered as a Nazi or Fascist.
Pathetic.

Why would black or Asian people want to join BNP?
Probably because they have integrated succesfully and enhanced British society over the years and are equally concerned about the breakdown and transformation of British society and the potential Islamification.

www.guardian.co.uk...

Personally I don't know any black or Asian members, but I do know plenty who sympathise with their stance on immigration and EU membership.

As for it turning into the ENP?
Ridiculous.
As stu has said, they only mention England in their support for an English parliament, something that has to happen some time soon.
We can not continue with the current system of England being under-represented and actively discriminated against within The Union.

And why shouldn't there be an English National Party when it is ok to have Scottish and Welsh one's.

Hypocrisy and double standards.

I personally could never believe in everything one single political party believed in, it is blinkered and naive in my opinion, and as such would like to see the abolition of the party political system in our electoral and parliamentary process.
However, if I had to then having only getting to know of their existence last year thanks to stumason I would support the English Democrats Party,www.voteenglish.org... unfortunately they do not have anyone standing for election in my constituency.


Edit sue to bad spelling, poor grammar, ageing eyes and a knackered space bar!



[edit on 25/4/10 by Freeborn]


reply posted on 25-4-2010 @ 07:05 AM by stumason
Originally posted by Freeborn
However, if I had to then having only getting to know of their existence last year thanks to stumason I would support the English Democrats Party,www.voteenglish.org... unfortunately they do not have anyone standing for election in my constituency.


Unfortunately, we only have 120 candiates standing across England. I contemplated being my local candidate (we also don't have one in Wokingham) but the combination of staunch Tory support and a lack of time on my part (father of two, soon to be three and working a gruelling shift pattern) put me off.

As a result, I may vote Tory just to stave off a Labour land grab in this area. I'd rather not vote ED and have the Tories in power, than vote ED and have Labour back in power.

Fingers crossed though that the Tories need Lib Dem support in the next Parliament, as they may well finally get their way with some sort of proportional voting system rather then the FPTP we have, which will benefit the smaller parties wholesale.

If that does happen, I will definately consider standing in the next election and will work in the meantime to spread the word for the ED, although some work is needed to flesh out their policies more.


reply posted on 25-4-2010 @ 07:32 AM by Freeborn
reply to post by stumason


I am very much in a quandary.

I bought into the Blair dream but feel so let down and betrayed.
Brown lacks stature and is indecisive and I just can not trust this bunch of egotistical, self centred and self righteous arrogant twits, wrong vowel I think, that call themselves The Labour Party.

I suffered the worst of the Thatcher years and will never vote for a party who deliberately tore whole communities apart and sold this country down the river.
Cameron is a pompous idiot with connections to the Rothschilds etc.
I am amazed that he is doing so well in the ratings as he comes across very poorly on TV.

Lib-Dems?
Clegg is beginning to feel the heat and has not been as impressive the last couple of times I have seen him.
The MSM are going to put him under intense scrutiny.
The Lib-Dem defence policy scares the crap out of me.
However, they do have the benefit of Vince Cable, a man of integrity and honour.
And electoral reform.
Hopefully the 2 things they will get out of any power sharing.
But on the whole their manifesto is just so wishy washy.

That leaves BNP and UKIP, whose only policies of any substance are immigration and EU membership.
Both very important in my book, but...????

So my quandary, who to vote for from this complete shower of #e?


reply posted on 25-4-2010 @ 08:01 AM by Tiger5
reply to post by Freeborn


You and me both. Blair has done a lot in the early years but boy have things gone bad. I have always detested The "Milk snatcher".

I will be voting Lib Dem because of Vince Cable. The problems are:

1) British party politics is boring and has littel new ideas about the current problems.

2) Rampant "Snout in the trough syndrome" as per the expenses scandal and contempt for the electorate.

3) How to cope with capitalism's periodic boom/ bust activity?

4) how does a country deal withthe enemy within of Fundamentalist Islam?


So what did the English do for St Georges Day?


reply posted on 25-4-2010 @ 08:31 AM by Freeborn
reply to post by Tiger5


All though I agree with the majority of what you stated I must say that even though I highly admire Vince Cable it is not a Presedential Election and as such he alone is not reason enough to vote Lib-Dem.
And their defnce policy will leave this country naked and reliant on other's, something that fill's me with fear and dread.

Yes it's time for change....I just wish it was a bit more radical.

As for St. George's Day.
Went to the pub with a group of friends and had a thoroughly good time drinking, smoking, laughing, crying, singing and even some dancing.

Shame the merriment was not as widespread as it should be.

Did you partake in any celebrations?


reply posted on 25-4-2010 @ 09:07 AM by Thepreye
reply to post by Freeborn


I agree about Vince, appears to be a genuinely good guy but he is 67, nearly.

Apart from the race thing you'd be hard pressed to find a more patriotic Englishman than me, to me part of being English is being too innately clever and aware of the world to be racist, I even hate the bloody Normans for what they did to us!


reply posted on 25-4-2010 @ 09:10 AM by stumason
Originally posted by woodwardjnr
Havn't the Lib dems called for a startegic defense review, which i think is a sensible option. We really need to understand that massive cuts are going to be made, and they have to be made somewhere.


This is way off topic now, but I'll bite.

Yes, a SDR is needed but you cannot have a SDR when only looking at current threats. It is exceedingly shortsighted to make cuts to programmes which might not be overly useful now but may be utterly necessary in 5-10 years. If industry is allowed to go and skills are lost, they can't be replaced easily or cheaply.

Originally posted by woodwardjnr
We cant expect to be able to provide British troops with the best equipment for the war in Afghanistan, have an updated Eurofighter (which is already outdated compared to what other airforces fly) and a new Trident system that was designed for a cold war era. Your gonna have to make some cuts. which one do you want to cut?


You also can't gear the Armed forces to fight a bunch of insurgents and leave them deskilled and underequipped in other area's. If they can find hundreds of billions to save a bank, why can they not find a couple to up Defence spending?

The Typhoon is not outdated and I challenge you to name a fighter outside the F-22 that even comes close.

As for a Nuclear deterrent, it is needed but perhaps not Trident. An IRBM system or using tactical missiles like our old Blue Streak will suffice.

Originally posted by woodwardjnr
Surely, Schools, Hospitals, pensions are more important to the majority of the UK population.


I think you'll find Defence is pretty high up the list as well. There is litterally billions wasted in mismanagement (or over management) of the NHS.

There are also Billions wasted on paying people to be lazy. Make cuts where cuts are needed, don't continue the status quo of massive Government waste.

Granted though, the MoD can make some savings from cutting waste too, but civil servants tend to be the countries most useless people, as the top talent goes into the more lucrative private sector, so it is no surprise they can't run big projects effectively.


reply posted on 25-4-2010 @ 09:13 AM by Yissachar1
The English Democratic Party the only ones worth voting for..... Shame there is not enough of them standing.... Even my dad... Who is a staunch Tory has said he would switch to them if they had more people standing......

Definitely would never vote BNP... Then I would have people in power like my own brother who is a total racist.... My brother does come out with some valid points... For example when he wen't to renew his passport that there were people ther getting British passports but needing an interpreter!!! He walked out because he got too angry and has already done jail time for varous "causes"....... However at heart is a racist thug and the things he says are disgusting so I keep my kids away from him.... No thanks BNP....


reply posted on 25-4-2010 @ 10:41 AM by Tiger5
reply to post by Freeborn


Well it is not that I feel the Lib Dems are brilliant just that the other 2 major parties are so skanky. In my area the Lib dems have no chance of wining so I suppose mine is a protest vote or a despair vote.

I went to a St georges day party and saw some Am Dram. Am Dram IS quintissentially English. What is "Englishness" anyway? Can anyone tell?

Stumason captures some of it in his signature but is that it?? Is Englishness important given that it is a developed country in peacetime??
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