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reply posted on 9-2-2010 @ 06:15 AM by December_Rain
reply to post by rhines


I don't really think Israel will attack anyone this year. The last year attack on Gaza brought attention of the world to the genocide being carried out by Israel, I think Israel will stay low for sometime. It's easier to stay away from public attention for Israel to carry out it's apartheid and illegal annexation of land.



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reply posted on 9-2-2010 @ 07:02 AM by rhines
reply to post by December_Rain


A Google News duel, a paste and copy operation. This Thursday is the 11th, we will know then ;-)

"Iran is rushing forward to produce nuclear weapons......I believe that what is required right now is tough action by the international community," Netanyahu told European diplomats that dealt only with the Iranian issue. "What is required is a lot more than words." by Benjamin Netanyahu - Ha'aretz
www.haaretz.com...



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reply posted on 9-2-2010 @ 10:29 AM by minkey53
reply to post by Sean48


Peak oil for the 2nd


Not with you, what does that mean as an answer?


reply posted on 10-2-2010 @ 05:31 AM by bigyin
reply to post by smurfy


Ask Dramey which he is talking about and we can go from there.


reply posted on 10-2-2010 @ 10:50 AM by Tifozi
reply to post by semperfortis


1. They don't need to. That would only be important if Iran had to control a vast ocean territory, which, they don't.

And actually, strategically speaking, the Persian Gulf is a very easy to defend and attack any ship that is in there. It's the same as a group of troops going through a vale.

2. It's not the same. The Iraqi troops were overrated and the reports about their numbers were a bit too high. In the first Golf War, they would have caused some problems if the war continued. In this recent Iraq war...well....there was no Iraq army.

Iran's force is way better than the Iraq army. Plus, the Iraq didn't had the aid of other countries. It was alone against the West. Iran isn't, at all.

They just need China and Russia (let alone the others) to give a kiss-kiss to them, and the US and Israel are in deep manure.


Don't think that the technology and the "oh we are mighty" factor will help the US. History has proven many times before that technology is only a tool, not a decisive factor. And you need to know how to use it, and Iraq/Afghanistan shows that the US still have a lot to learn from the potential of their "technological advance".

Remember Vietnam? The US had better fighter-jets, the US had better equiped soldiers, the US had everything better.

But a group of well trained soldiers, a large group of farmers with weapons, a small amount of Russian assistance, and very basic tactics (like knowing your territory and hand-made traps) brought the mighty US giant to his knees.

Besides, there are simple ways to go around all that tech, and Iran might just have that.

Yeah, US has a lot of tech, but any person around military knows that the US soldiers are one of the worst in basic combat (except for the special forces like the navy seals).

Cut down their communications, cut down their radio assistance and monitoring, and there goes the mighty power of the US.

The problem with the US is that they are trained as a group, as a whole. To work with technology, to work with ranks, to work with largely known tactics.

Many of the today armies don't work like that. Most of them are guerrilla or very basic forms of units. You can't fight what you can't see, and you can't bring to the grown what you can't squish.

I just hope that the US generals don't have that same line of thinking that high of them-selfs.


reply posted on 10-2-2010 @ 12:18 PM by bigyin
reply to post by Tifozi


Same applies in Afghanistan, The Russians with superior technology were driven out by the Taliban. CIA supplied the Taliban with SAM's and that helped them a lot, but unless you can win a ground war and occupy the country you are doomed.


reply posted on 10-2-2010 @ 12:31 PM by Tifozi
reply to post by bigyin


Exactly.

Proxy wars can ruin a country's invasion.

Afghanistan is a very good example. The US just gave them a "few" bucks and they sent the "mighty" (back then) russians home.

Imagine if the russians now give a "few" bucks and gear to Iran while the US allied forces start to invade Iran.
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