Sorry but I originally posted this in the wrong thread. I am moving it over here...
Taken from the Billy Meier Website point for point... I have some answers and I have some questions. Hoping I will get some answers to these questions
and keep the thread on track. And actually I want to send out an apology to Aurelius. Even though I think you are wrong about your views on this case
I can tell you are sincere in what you believe. Since you seem to have background in this case maybe you can answer some of my questions.
*** More than 250 contacts (face to face or telepathic)
That is what Billy Meier states. I do not have to prove this is a hoax. Billy has to prove this is the truth. More of these points will show a
pattern.
*** Conversations with alien beings Several thousand pages of verbatim reports of the talks between the contact person and the extraterrestrials
Anyone can write several thousand pages. This is nothing special. Human beings have fantastic imaginations. I don’t think anyone would deny that fact.
***Hundreds of photographs of the spacecraft (most of them in daylight)
I thought there were 1200+ photos? But anyway, out of hundreds of photos most of the time we only get to see the same 12 photos. Why do we only get to
see a small handful of photos when there are so many? Why, easy, because those small amount of photos are the best looking ones of the bunch. The
large majority of the Billy Meier UFO photographs look terrible and are obvious fakes so those photos are not shown to the public. Some of these
photos are see here in this thread. But you can notice that the obvious fake photos are no where to be found on the Billy Meier propaganda websites….I
wonder why? Hmmm.
*** The clearest photographs worldwide of alien spacecraft
Some photos are very clear and others are not so clear. A clear photo or a blurry is not proof of a hoax or that they are real. Tests need to be done
on the photo negatives, pictures and video and see if they match up with story events.
*** More than one kind of spacecraft used
I don't really understand what this proves. Is this trying to suggest that he couldn't fake more than 1 UFO?
*** More than six trips aboard the spacecraft
Again, prove it. We don't have to.
*** 8mm film footage in color taken
Yes and UFO's in these 8mm footage have been shown to follow the same pattern as a pendulum. File presented from DR. Bruce Maccabee – one of the
worlds best UFO media analyst.
brumac.8k.com...
*** Scores of spaceship landing tracks
Tracks that cannot be made by anything else? I don’t think so.
*** Sounds of the spacecraft recorded
As Acidhead has shown sounds can be duplicated. The idea that because we don’t know what devices or methods Billy used to create the sounds and
therefore cannot reproduce these sounds 100% so they must be alien is not logical or reasonable. If anyone mixes obscure sounds together it will be
very hard for another person to duplicate the exact sound without knowing how the sound was made. The sounds do not prove anything.
*** Metal samples
Cover this further down…
***More than 4 photographers of the spacecraft
Wait, now there are more people involved? What about this statement?
"I am the only human being on Earth who is able to maintain physical and telepathic contact with Pleiadians and other life forms of the same
evolutionary level. Nobody on Earth is able to do this, not even those people whose spirit forms did not originate on Earth." - Billy Meier
*** More than two dozen other witnesses
"I am the only human being on Earth who is able to maintain physical and telepathic contact with Pleiadians and other life forms of the same
evolutionary level. Nobody on Earth is able to do this, not even those people whose spirit forms did not originate on Earth." - Billy Meier
*** More than one alien group involved
I don’t really have anything to say about this point. One alien group - more than one alien group, whatever.
*** Advanced technologies described
I do not know enough about the scientific technology of aliens to comment on this part.
*** Photogrammetric and computer analysis of photos
Photo analysis done with MUFON, NICAP and Dr. Bruce Maccabee (and others) showed that none of the pictures given to them to tests were first
generation photos. The photographs were 3rd, 4th, and even some 5th generation photos (pictures of pictures). This is typically the case in fake
pictures where the person has airbrushed out any signs of a hoax (wires) and then re-photographed the picture.
*** Tonal and dynamic analysis of recorded sounds
Again, where were these sounds analyzed and what techniques? And do not point to the same 3 or 4 crappy Billy Meier propaganda sites that say these
tests have been done but do not give any creditable sources.
*** Metallurgical and chemical analysis of metals
What scientific lab did the tests? What were the names of the scientists involved? How were the tests conducted? Are the labs creditable or fronts for
this agenda? I have been asking these questions for a long time and no one can point to a lab or name real scientists that conducted these
experiments.
*** Truth testing of witnesses
Again, who preformed these alleged tests? What type of “truth tests” were run? Where are the transcripts? Where are the results? Who was the name of
the person conducting these tests and what where his qualifications? Can these witnesses be tested again? Why are there other witnesses when Billy is
the only one that can see these aliens?
Let me also make a point to scientific proof. All professional examination of sound, metal, video and pictures absolutely has to be done by creditable
scientists in that field and not some guy with a home computer who thinks he is a professional. Can we at least agree with that statement?