Huge Spiral above United Kingdom from meteo satellite?

Originally posted by Foo_Lovers
Here is the problem I have with the contrail theory.The spiral thickness (the individual line not the whole shape ) must be at least 10 miles wide just look at the scale of it compared with the land mass below.I don't think a normal contrail would even show up on an image of this scale.

Obviously the contrails were created a while before the image was taken, as the following images show, the contrails are spreading out and eventually turn into clouds

It would be like trying to see an individual road from space.

See above.

Also the whole country would be criss-crossed with trails.

I think you need to do some research on how weather works and how contrails form.

Using your logic, if it's raining in Leeds then it must be raining in London.

That doesn't happen for the same reason that contrails will form one place and not another.

If you take a closer look, you can see that Right inside, above and below the Spiral and during the same time, there are many real "linear" contrails.
This spiral is really huge in wide, diameter and lenght.
The aircraft circling contrail explanation not convince at all.




[edit on 14-1-2010 by Imagir]

Originally posted by Imagir
If you take a closer look, you can see that Right inside, above and below the Spiral and during the same time, there are many real "linear" contrails.

and they are the same width as the contrail in the spiral

This spiral is really huge in wide, diameter and lenght.

exactly like a AWACS does... like here www.sat.dundee.ac.uk...

The aircraft circling contrail explanation not convince at all.

why not? A google search shows similiar contrails caused by circling aircraft....

reply to post by Imagir


It's no different to the two contrails crossing in that same picture.

Time and different altitudes will allow this to happen.

Oh and we have an eye witness, Britguy who says:

That part of the east coast is also used a lot by tankers out of mildenhall or, quite possibly (and something I often see when visiting family in Norfolk), AWACS out of RAF Waddington. The AWACS are usually seen flying very broad circular patterns at high altitude.

How can it be anything else?

reply to post by dereks

exactly like a AWACS does... like here www.sat.dundee.ac.uk...

Who said that this spiral was made by AWACS?

reply to post by Chadwickus


May be you ignore that AWACS fly in circling in HORIZONTAL WAY above the target and NOT IN LOOPING WAY.

Originally posted by Imagir
Who said that this spiral was made by AWACS?

AWACS, or tanker, or radar calibration flight... and it is the pattern a AWACS flys

[edit on 14/1/10 by dereks]

reply to post by Imagir


Have another look at the sequence of images that you posted.

Look at the direction the contrails/clouds are moving and then look at the direction the spiral is moving, they're identical.

Why? Because the military aircraft is circling the same area and then the winds a pushing the contrails south creating the spiral effect.

Oh and what is the difference between looping and circling?



[edit on 14/1/10 by Chadwickus]

Originally posted by dereks

Originally posted by Imagir
Who said that this spiral was made by AWACS?

AWACS, or tanker, or radar calibration flight... and it is the pattern a AWACS flys

[edit on 14/1/10 by dereks]

Even Kites with firecrackers in trail...

Sorry, but you really, YOU HAVE NO IDEA of what you are talking about!

reply to post by Chadwickus


You ignore the word..... "HORIZONTAL"... CIRCLING above the target.

Originally posted by Imagir
Sorry, but you really, YOU HAVE NO IDEA of what you are talking about!

actually you are the one with no clue at all, try reading the captions in the pictures....

reply to post by Imagir


Interesting pics so i give you a flag.... other than this i don't really know what to say... looks defo like some spiral (if the pics are true and not faked)...

Maybe God is blowing smoke rings!!

reply to post by Imagir


I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

I'm not ignoring that they're horizontal, it's obvious they're horizontal otherwise we couldn't see them from space right?

You haven't confused horizontal with vertical I hope?

Primary school refresher if so:

Green line: Vertical

Red line: Horizontal

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ok ....this thread is one of the worst i have seen on here for many a year.....why you are all arguing about it i will never know.

it is a AWACS flight out of RAF Waddington. here are the flight details:

E-3D Sentry (ZH104) callsign 'NATO 20'

it was on a very routine crew training refueling mission.

IF you require more info , including it exact location on the day ie. its AARA number let me know.

thanks

snoopyuk

reply to post by Chadwickus


GOOD! Then you know! Red Line is called HORIZONTAL!

And this is the LOOPING:

Looping is executed pulling up the airplane so that it executes a complete turn in the shape of ring (loop). A looping perfect it would have to design perfect a circular trajectory that is shut exactly in the same point (for quota, position and direction of the aircraft) in which it has been begun.

reply to post by snoopyuk


This is the worst post that I ever seen in all my life here on ats and it seem like a "Classic Disinfo tactic"....

reply to post by TruthxIsxInxThexMist


Thanks TIM.
The image coming from BBC. news.bbc.co.uk...

reply to post by Imagir


are you refering to my post ?? it is a straight forward post that is stating the facts.

snoopyuk

reply to post by snoopyuk


The explanation of the umpteenth failed launch of a Russian ICBM missile in North Sea is better than your stupid theory of the Looping of the AWACS!

reply to post by Imagir


Soooo a horizontal loop would be just like what we see in the images....

NOT a vertical loop like your pictures show.....

Have you been drinking?