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reply posted on 2-1-2010 @ 08:01 PM by DJMSN
reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler



Unless of course you are Washinton Socialites and trying to get a reality TV show and the Secret Service let you walk right thru the gates!

I do believe these people are just frustrated and venting a little but you are correct when you say it is not right. We as Americans can be proud of what We have and what We have accomplished not matter what our Politicians do.


reply posted on 2-1-2010 @ 08:13 PM by StaceyWilson
Im still gonna mistake gun metal grey /silver ballons for ducks in shooting season !!! No guns or revolutionary thoughts here Mr Officer , I promise !!!
Let me ask a question , Is a revolution only a revolution when its a well paid illuminati Cause ?

“If one desires to point to a major world event proven to have been inspired by secret society machinations, one need look no further than the French Revolution, which devastated that nation between 1787 and 1799. Revolutionary leaders, in seeking to overthrow the decadent monarchy of King Louis XVI, launched the first national revolution of modern times.

note..Napoleon was 18 yrs old when this revolution started , Then the french (Illuminati)took over all of Europe , But in 1812, they were crushed by the russians , saving europe ..hmm

Although popularly believed to have begun due to a public uprising over lack of food and government representation, the record is quite clear that the revolution was instigated by cells of French Masonry and the German Illuminati.

The New Encyclopedia Britannica tells us that in France there arose a political system and a philosophical outlook that no longer took Christianity for granted, that in fact explicitly opposed it… The brotherhood taught by such groups as the Freemasons, members of secret fraternal societies, and the Illuminati, a rationalist secret society, provided a rival to the Catholic sense of community.”

Secret society researcher and author Nesta H. Webster was even more pointed, writing in 1924, “[The Masonic book A Ritual and Illustrations of Freemasonry] contains the following passage, ‘The Masons… originated the Revolution with the infamous Duke of Orleans at their head.’”

Author Bramley wrote, “During the first French Revolution, a key rebel leader was the Duke of Orleans, who was grand master of French Masonry before his resignation at the height of the Revolution. Marquis de Lafayette, the man who had been initiated into the Masonic fraternity by George Washington, also played an important role in the French revolutionary cause. The Jacobin Club, which was the radical nucleus of the French revolutionary movement, was founded by prominent Freemasons.”
-Jim Marrs, Rule By Secrecy

I say whatever will be will be , Revolution My Friend, is in the Eye of the Beholder !



reply posted on 2-1-2010 @ 08:15 PM by DeathShield
reply to post by Subjective Truth




You know as much as i would love a revolution to happen i think we might be able to start fixing things peacefully if we get people to stop thinking in such highly polarized terms.


reply posted on 2-1-2010 @ 08:15 PM by John_Brown
reply to post by Flakey




The Constitution was drafted AFTER the revolution was finished and it was done over bodies of many dead men.


In a letter to James Madison, Jefferson called those dead bodies "manure" for the "tree of liberty". Gives you some idea how the Founding Fathers viewed revolution and the required sacrifice of life. Just manure. Why do we honor and preserve that sensibility? Reminds me of Army basic: "What makes the green grass grow Privates?" "Red, red blood, Drill Sergeant!"


reply posted on 2-1-2010 @ 08:16 PM by ProtoplasmicTraveler
reply to post by Subjective Truth





I agree this is not the place and or the time to talk about this topic. The times are not the bad yet we will know when the time is right just like the Iranians know.


I could be wrong but I really doubt the CIA and MI5 are going to let us know when it’s time to revolt like they do with the Iranians. I doubt that the United States Government is going to provide hundreds of millions of dollars through a Presidential finding to fund rebellious elements and equip them either here in America like they have in Iran! I am pretty sure the pro-corporate government mainstream media isn’t going to give rebellious elements within America that same kind of great press that they give to Iranian rebels.

It’s a nice thought though!



reply posted on 2-1-2010 @ 08:19 PM by pumpkinorange
Originally posted by moonzoo7
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post by Flakey


"What if?" conversations about revolution, not a problem. I really want to point out the thread and the post to which I'm referring, but I'm not trying to start a thread war here. represented.


So you are flaming all over everyone because of ONE post??


reply posted on 2-1-2010 @ 08:23 PM by Subjective Truth
reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler



Unless you are in the know you can not say this is the facts behind what is happening in Iran and if you did know the facts you would not say. So I have to write you off as not knowing anything about this other than speculation.

And before you go saying well it could happen I agree it could but we will never know the facts behind it a speculation put forward as facts is just plain stupid!!!!


reply posted on 2-1-2010 @ 08:34 PM by Flakey
reply to post by OldDragger



Who made this about Obama? Revolutions are not waged over passing evils but over long sustained intolerable evils. Evils that surpass one administration.
Why do you think people that advocate revolution are murderers? You said that these "barbarians" justify their blood lust with BS,freedom, and founding fathers. You really should of been taught this in school, the nation of the USA was founded by people that killed. If you have ever read the "declaration of independence" you would find their list of reasons for revolution.

You say this dissenters don't give a crap about the Constitution. Have you read the US Constitution? The US is not a democracy. It is a Republic.
You did not vote for Obama , your states electoral college voted for Obama.

What is so wrong with people discussing revolution? I would rather read about their hopes and observations rather than read about US citizens calling for restrictions on liberty. I'm kinda fond of the first amendment.




reply posted on 2-1-2010 @ 08:36 PM by ProtoplasmicTraveler
reply to post by Subjective Truth





Unless you are in the know you can not say this is the facts behind what is happening in Iran and if you did know the facts you would not say. So I have to write you off as not knowing anything about this other than speculation.


Plenty of denial in this thread friend to go around the world and back again!

The United States Congress has allotted more than 400,000,000.00 for destablizing the Iranian Regime through covert means dating back two years ago.

Do you really imagine that the CIA is using that money to buy Afghani heroin?

Being in the know is as simple as reading the news friend, it's all there in black and white.

It's important to understand that our own American Revolution did not happen with out massive aide and funding from the France.

Revolutions do in fact require money and typically an outside source of money for weapons, supplies, intelligence and media propaganda efforts.

If you know anything about our own Revolution and past revolutions within Iran you would know in fact that this is always the case.

Thanks.


reply posted on 2-1-2010 @ 08:37 PM by DeathShield
reply to post by dereks



Who says they aren't ? What court decided that? Or is it just some "loyalists" saying that?


reply posted on 2-1-2010 @ 08:42 PM by DeathShield
reply to post by MattMulder



Holy #, that is actually a good point. I never thought of that. I mean i am being dead serious here. It's really obvious in retrospect.


reply posted on 2-1-2010 @ 08:47 PM by ProtoplasmicTraveler
reply to post by MattMulder





I really hope those guys understand that the moment they raise AR-15s instead of the regular fake gun for Independence Day shows they will be considered traitors and could help the NWO putting some Martial Law in motion...my 2c


I believe your two cents is right on the money my friend. I am of the personal opinion that the Powers that Be are pushing for a citizen’s revolt to employ new laws and technologies to better control us and negate us.

I am of the personal opinion that the most effective form of revolt is simply not complying with the things that are expected of citizens to keep funding and enabling the system.

I doubt they will shoot us for lack of interest!

If you really want to hurt someone you go after their wallet not their physical person. That’s the key.
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