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Originally posted by moonzoo7
Before I open this can of worms, I will say that I absolutely, unequivicably believe in the Right of Free Speech. I believe that ATS members should be able to voice opinions that are controversial and not within the boundaries of the mainstream media here. That's part of what ATS is all about. However, as an ATS member andas an indivdual, I am concerned by the amount of posts that are either directly or indirectly calling for an armed revolution here in the United States, and the inferrences towards the concept of the President meeting an untimely end. I'm not referring to average people who are fed-up with our government, corruption, and "the system". I am one of those people. But there is a certain tone with some posts, especially ones which advance the idea that something would, should or will "happen" to The President of the United States, that I find disturbing as a citizen.
ATS has been working hard lately on keeping insults, trolling, and general rude behavior towards other members to a minimum, and has in fact instituted a "No Tolerance" stance towards such behavior on other threads. However, while the Moderators don't tolerate personal insults or off-topic comments, they allow people to openly advocate armed, violent revolution and the "concept" that our duly- elected Commander in Chief be assassinated. In my opinion, this is inconsistent with, if not the letter, the spirit of ATS Terms and Conditions.
You can't call another member an idiot, but you can call for armed violence and a political coup via political assassination. I'm having trouble reconciling this.
I don't want to be over-ran by the conservatives here. I know how you feel, I've been reading the threads. You won't change my opinion, and if you want to trash me personally for voicing my opinion, then go check your hypocrisy at the door. I know of course that I've opened the door to being ridiculed and such, but that doesn't matter.
It's illegal to call for the armed over-throw of our government, as well as for advancing the idea of killing the President. We are a Nation of Laws for a reason.
You don't like how the last election turned out? Become more politically active. Are all politicians inherently corrupt? Run for office and give us someone who is honest. You don't like the current administration's legislation? Draft some legislation and present that to your elected Representatives, but please stop whining and threatening violence. At least here. Say whatever you want down in your bunker or in the church parking lot.
If anyone else here feels the way I do about this, please speak up and lend me some support. I know there must be other people here who feel the way I do about this issue. If you disagree with me, fine, we are fellow citizens and I have thick skin. I can handle it. If you just want to trash me because I've spoken from my heart, then insert your favorite bone-cutting insult here and apply it to yourself.
I'm curious about how the Mods and even SkepticOverlord feel about what I've said. Please feel free to jump in.
[edit on 2-1-2010 by moonzoo7]
Originally posted by Polynomial C
I don't think you have to worry ...
This "Revolution" the nuts talk about, is just an excuse for them to gather and play their "I am a patriot, i want to live in the 18th century. i love the founding fathers" games
Nobody is taking them seriously .. they are a joke ..
Originally posted by moonzoo7
The last time I checked, the Founding Fathers drafted the Constitution through vigorous debate and compromise. The document didn't fall out of the sky with a thunderclap and flash of lightning.
Originally posted by EMPIRE
reply to post by Polynomial C
I agree with this 100%. These people are delesuinal and live in a fantasy world. When you start presenting them with logical reasons as to why they don't make sense, and why they are wasting their time, you'll be treated to many lulz.
It's illegal to call for the armed over-throw of our government...
You won't change my opinion, and if you want to trash me personally for voicing my opinion, then go check your hypocrisy at the door.