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News Corp. Likely to Pull Fox From Time Warner Cable

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posted on Dec, 30 2009 @ 05:54 PM
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This stuff happens all the time in the cable world and normally will go for about a week of no programming at the very most before a deal is made.

It will not really have an effect on stock prices and many wont convert to direct TV because of it or dish network. Direct TV has had this happen to them with other networks also and sadly because I work for comcast, not as many as I hoped jumped ship.

It's lose, lose for either of them to not have the programming available so it will probably get resolved quickly.




posted on Dec, 30 2009 @ 05:55 PM
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Thank god I have Time Warner. Hopefully they replace it with a channel worth watching...



posted on Dec, 30 2009 @ 05:56 PM
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Anyone think its because of the show "Fox and Friends"? (still FOX).
They had people like Jesse Ventura on the show and the main interviewer just stormed off lol.





Even though FOX is propaganda, maybe they have aired a few stories they shouldn't have during the year of 2009?

AOL Time Warner - Their Logo says it all. Pyramid, all seeing eye etc.



posted on Dec, 30 2009 @ 05:58 PM
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But atleast FOX puts other viewpoints on their programs. I haven't watched CNN in years, do they even bring on right wingers to debate or talk anymore to say their peice?



posted on Dec, 30 2009 @ 06:04 PM
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I'll give you 6 to 1 odds that Fox will be on TW in January. Let me know how much you are good for.


This is a kids game of who has better marbles. It happens every year, and when the seconds count down, there will be a resolution. Sadly greed wins every time.



posted on Dec, 30 2009 @ 06:05 PM
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Fox consistently generates higher ratings, and wants more money. And since they do have actual impressive ratings (far more than other cable news networks) consistently, what is wrong with their request for higher compensation?

Fox news prime time shows should be categorized as entertainment not NEWS, perhaps that would help things along?

Spin and biased opinion and politically skewed news reporting should not qualify as "cable news" ... it should be redefined and made a pay channel like HBO and other entertainment networks.

Then same fate for CNN and MSNBC etc. should also be considered.

Perhaps then a majority of ignorant mindless cable watching Americans would be more motivated to seek out their own news and information from many sources rather than sitting there daily absorbing the garbage on all of these "cable news networks"

The only conspiracy here is pure and simple "greed"


[edit on 30-12-2009 by Walkswithfish]



posted on Dec, 30 2009 @ 06:05 PM
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I tell my dad this all the time. " you know the world has gotten bad when fox news is actually one of the most fair news stations in the USA"



posted on Dec, 30 2009 @ 06:09 PM
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I applaud this move but we should also consider the FCC licenses that the media giants must have to do business. I contend that if the media giants can not tell the truth, will not do investigative journalism, will not cover the truth of matters and instead deceives and spouts fascist propaganda do not deserve to do business in America. The media giants are not doing what we the public demand or need as a nation. Any media giant that refuses to return to real journalism and will not tell the truth should be petitioned and we should demand that their FCC license to operate be suspended and or fined about a billion dollars a violation until the media giants realize that the America public no longer wants lies and deceptive reporting. We do not want propaganda and most of all we dont need the media spreading governmental propaganda.

If any media giant cant do a story or cover pharmacutical side affects or hormones in the milk and floride in the water without having to consider their sponsor corporation then we can assume the media giants will do nothing to offend the hand that feeds them. Herein lies the problem.

Somehow the media giants must be able to report without having to worry that GE or some major player desires certain coverage not be aired or reported on without their permission. This is how it is done today and I say it it time to hold the media giants accountable for their criminal actions.

Fine them, suspend their licenses and or just revoke their ability to do business. Only when the media answers to the public with real news coverage will anything be as it should be. For the present time, we should demand that the FCC become the right arm of the American public and use the licensing process to make the media giants comply with ethical and moral reporting. Until we do, nothing will change.



posted on Dec, 30 2009 @ 06:12 PM
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I hope you understand that Right-Wing and conservationism is not the same ideology. Just as I do not prescribe all those that are liberal as Left-Wing.

One can be either in stance while standing on either side of the aisle. Most people hate black/white comparison, yet most will make them when it is something they abhor.



posted on Dec, 30 2009 @ 06:14 PM
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Originally posted by rcwj1975
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But atleast FOX puts other viewpoints on their programs. I haven't watched CNN in years, do they even bring on right wingers to debate or talk anymore to say their peice?


Well, I will give FOX credit for bringing on different view points, but FOX has a purpose for doing that. I don't like FOX or CNN. Here is one of the reasons I don't like FOX:




posted on Dec, 30 2009 @ 06:16 PM
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Originally posted by DeathShield
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Yes, now you can get brainwashed by the left wing exclusively.

Left wing would still be better than the right wing.



posted on Dec, 30 2009 @ 06:17 PM
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Originally posted by Walkswithfish
Fox consistently generates higher ratings, and wants more money.


But the important question is whether this will translate into desertion of viewers from cable, in case FOX is dropped -- which is far from clear. Many will be reluctant to seek out a different provider or medium. Cable is also tied with broadband often, and packaged with VOIP at times... Too much of a hassle to switch!

I'm sure Time Warner did their homework on this one. I guess they could indeed offer it as a pay channel, which would be great, too -- it's like tax on stupidity.



posted on Dec, 30 2009 @ 06:19 PM
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too bad I had Fox news here on my tv too .. Now I am stuck with CNN and that news station like NBC ect are too Pro Obama , I don't like the way Obama is handling but CNN is only gives positive news on Obama's presidency..

Happenly I found some alternative sources to still recieving Fox news..
I know some people are just against Foxnews for they are still propaganding the Bush ways..
But the way Obama is handling after terrorist attacks and just put them in civil courts and do just if they are just nothing more as bankrobbers..
a thing which is wrong .. and the only yes the only news stations which state my points of view out in the open is fox news.

Obama has forgotten or don't want to realise that we are in war and are for a long time now.. we have to threat those terrorist as enemy soldiers .. soldiers for a nation free army only following there radical ideology.

CNN is not willing to say that in there broadcasts Fox news does.



posted on Dec, 30 2009 @ 06:19 PM
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This is not just about FOX News. How many NFL fans are going to be upset over missing NFC playoff games on Fox network? What about American Idol?

Look for Direct TV to be all over this one.



posted on Dec, 30 2009 @ 06:23 PM
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Who needs Fox anyway?

We have the internet and for mainstream news, we now have the best MSM station anyone would ask for: RussiaToday



posted on Dec, 30 2009 @ 06:25 PM
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Originally posted by DeathShield
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I tell my dad this all the time. " you know the world has gotten bad when fox news is actually one of the most fair news stations in the USA"


But Fox isn't "news" it's entertainment. Merely a vehicle to sell Depends, Viagra, Packaged Food to fat people and glue to hold in false teeth.
They have very smart people figuring out who their demographic is and they pander to them like kings of pimpdom. It's not "news" ...it's business.

They're sellin and apparently you're buyin.

[edit on 30-12-2009 by whaaa]



posted on Dec, 30 2009 @ 06:27 PM
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Originally posted by greeneyedleo
Does this mean that only Time Warner Customers will be without?
I have DirectTV, so it seems like those not using TW will still see it.

Or am I missunderstanding?



I think it is only affecting Time Warner Cable customers, but do not quote me on that... I sort of recall seeing a commercial here in Dallas talking about this only affecting TWC customers....

But again, do not quote me on that because I was not paying that much attention to the commercial.



posted on Dec, 30 2009 @ 06:29 PM
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And CNN is not business? They have the same business models, just appeal to a different demographic.

People so easily throw the baby out with the bath water, but there are journalist, at all the organizations that are worthy of being called journalist. Or are you saying Chris Wallace is just a propagandist? (only person off the top of the head who I can think as a respectable journalist at the moment, but I know there are several at CNN that I believe do their job)



posted on Dec, 30 2009 @ 06:32 PM
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NEW YORK (Reuters) - Time Warner Cable Inc said it is willing to go to arbitration with News Corp's Fox Networks to avoid losing some of Fox's channels if the companies fail to agree on a new carriage deal.

But News Corp turned down the proposal, arguing that the issue needs to be settled at the bargaining table.

In a letter to U.S. Senator John Kerry, Time Warner Cable Chief Executive Glenn Britt said his company will agree to interim steps to preserve consumers' uninterrupted access to Fox programing after the current agreement expires on December 31.

Britt was responding to a December 22 letter from Kerry that urged a swift resolution and suggested that, in the absence of an agreement, Fox allow Time Warner Cable to continue transmitting programing through the college bowl football season either under current terms or terms that can be retroactively applied after a deal is reached.

Kerry, in his role as chair of the Senate Commerce subcommittee on communications, technology and the Internet, suggested that two sides take their dispute to arbitration. Britt welcomed that proposal.

"We are willing to commence an arbitration proceeding immediately before the FCC (Federal Communications Commission)," said Britt. "And to prevent any disruption to consumers while the proceeding is pending, we would enter into an interim agreement with Fox."

But News Corp Chief Operating Officer Chase Carey said the arbitration looks to the past rather than the future. He said in earlier internal memo to staff that the two companies had been in fruitless talks for months and it was now likely the Fox stations would go off air.

"We respectfully believe these discussions do not belong in the hands of a third party," Carey wrote in response to Kerry. "We believe the appropriate solution is for Time Warner Cable and Fox to negotiate a fair and mutually beneficial deal."


www.reuters.com...

weird



posted on Dec, 30 2009 @ 06:34 PM
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TWC has been showing ads for the last months asking customers to come to their website and vote to roll over or fight. They recently anounced that a resounding majority has voted for fight. We went through this same thing last year with CBS. It may be off cable for a month or so, then everyone kisses and makes up and the channel is back again. I watch very little on FOX so it's not a big deal for me.



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