Video of protesters stopping Iran hanging hits Internet

My respect and admiration for the Iranian people is so huge that I cannot find the words to express it.

Americans need to pay close attention to these brave people. We still have the right to keep and bear arms. We still have the right to vote, albeit imperfect, it's still pretty legit.

The unrest in Iran started last June when the Iranians realized that their presidential election was a sham. It's been going off and on every since.

I bet one would have great difficulty finding an Iranian who isn't informed on the issues or who takes the ballot box lightly.

We ought to be able to have a 95% or greater turn out on election day, and be willing to endure a 12 hour line to vote if need be. If learning the ins and outs of the pertinent issues and showing up to vote is too much trouble for Americans, then we deserve whatever we get.

If you don't think that Americans have a major problem in this s regard, go to Walmart and ask a 100 people who the vice president is. Note the attitudes of those who can't tell you. We are in a sorry state and we have got to change somehow. It is little wonder that TPTB don't respect us.

BTW, approximately 30% won't know who the VP is.

source:
Pew research...public knowledge

I don't know what to say,

So the Iranians that are protesting and risking their lives and the well being of their families, are, "happy" ?

The revolutionary Islamic regime in Tehran thus faces its most dangerous threat, an opposition which can no longer be dismissed as foreign-inspired, but whose revolutionary Islamic Shiite credentials are impeccable and who claim greater legitimacy than the corruption-ridden, oppressive clique in office.

The gunning down of the nephew of Mir Hussein Mousavi, seen as an assassination, further stoked the fury raging in the streets of Tehran. Yet Moussavi stood aside as the movement's senior cleric, Ayatollah Mehdi Karroubi, used the opportunity to further question the regime's religious legitimacy by asking: "What has happened to this religious system that it orders the killing of innocent people during the holy day of Ashura?"

www.debka.com...

The mullahs are saints?

The Iranian leaders are desirable?

Exiled Iranian group urges sanctions for Tehran
www.reuters.com...

"What the Iranian people want is a total change in the regime of the Supreme Leader. They don't want reform or a more moderate approach from the regime," she said.

"They want to overthrow the regime of the mullahs, they want a secular republic to replace religious dictatorship."

The PMOI was removed from a European Union list of banned terrorist groups in January but it is battling to be taken off a similar U.S. list.

"It's very unfortunate now to have the terrorist label applied to the Iranian resistance movement by Western countries because it's very clear that it was at the request of the mullahs' regime," she said.

"I think Western countries have to be impartial toward the Iranian people and the resistance and the mullahs' regime."

I want to know what the people want,

To defend the subjugation of women?

Women protesters were raped the dumped in the desert and their bodies burned,

Violence against women is rampant, rising every day with the power of the militias. Beheadings, rapes, beatings, suicides through self-immolation, genital mutilation, trafficking and child abuse masquerading as marriage of girls as young as nine are all on the increase.

Du'a Khalil Aswad, 17, from Nineveh, was executed by stoning in front of mob of 2,000 men for falling in love with a boy outside her Yazidi tribe. Mobile phone images of her broken body transmitted on the internet led to sectarian violence, international outrage and calls for reform. Her father, Khalil Aswad, speaking one year after her death in April last year, has revealed that none of those responsible had been prosecuted and his family remained "outcasts" in their own tribe.

www.independent.co.uk...

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n the long and tumultuous history-of -We Iranian people, women's rights, as a significant issue, has occupied a special chapter. The role of women in the Iranian society has had its ebbs and flows, but, unfortunately, for the most part their rights have been violated. This is particularly true for the 16 years of the rile of the Islamic clerics under the philosophy of "Velayate Faqih" (Guardianship of the Jurisprudent). At no time in our history has the Iranian woman been subjected to more cruel, harsh and arbitrary treatment from the ruling clique. Their subjugation has been codified into law. The pressure is so overwhelming that the suicide rate has been climbing in recent years, especially among young women.
We are dedicating this issue of FOCUS ON IRAN to the Iranian Women, with the aim of helping focus world attention on their plight. The clerical regime must be taken to task. The Iranian Woman must stand shoulder to shoulder with the Iranian Man to face down this primitive repressive regime.
In the Iranian tradition, women have always had special respect and equal treatment. Throughout history, we come across references to the special role of women in the traditional Iranian society. According to Plutarch "Iranian women used to participate in social affairs and fight in the battlefield".

azadeganiran.com...

Here is a website that lists a number of Iranian opposition groups .

Just found this list so I haven't had a chance to go through it yet , but will be starting from the top momentarily 3,2,1 ..

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I don't think anyone here with common sense will sit back and defend Ahmadinejad or the Iranian government itself.

I've been very vocal about world affairs with Iran. I don't think the world (U.S.) should deny the Iranian people nuclear power. I don't think we should sit around rattling our sabers about war and Iranian threats to peace.

The only way to bring about true change in Iran is to let the Iranian people bring it about themselves. We brought "Democracy" to Iraq and Afghanistan ... and look how that worked out.

Iran is not a threat to the world. The Iranian government is a threat to it's people. If Iran wants to develop nuclear power, let them ... but, only under strict U.N. observation and monitoring. They should never be allowed to develop nuclear weapons under their current government, but that's no pretext to go to war with them. Like, Israel did to Syria ... we should just destroy their facilities ... not invade their country or put the Iranian people in harms way with an air war.

we are all Majid Tavakoli

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Iran's Green Movement has embraced a new symbol of protest: the woman's veil. In an unprecedented show of support for women's rights, Iranian men have posted photos of themselves wearing the head covering typically worn by Muslim women. The images show hundreds of men clad in bright green headscarves posing mockingly for the camera.

This campaign was sparked by the government's attempt to humiliate leading student activist Majid Tavakoli. Authorities arrested Tavakoli after he delivered a fiery anti-government speech during Iran's Student Day demonstrations on December 7th. Following his detention, the semi-official Fars News Agency published photos of him wearing a woman's veil, claiming that he had been found trying to escape from campus using it as a disguise. Many members of the opposition believe the photos were fabricated to discredit and disgrace the young activist.

Now, men too have taken up the veil as a symbol of political protest.

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I heard an interesting bit of analysis on NPR yesterday.

The Obama administration has been suprised by the level of grassroots uprising in Iran and it has tripped up any plans for a peaceful dialouge with Iranian leaders.

Iranian leaders need to keep blaming the unrest on the west and CIA...as opposed to the less palatable explanation that their citizenry wants to overthrow them.

And the US can't throw it's lot in with the current Iranian government while it's people are revolting.

So, for now...no nuclear oversight agreements...it's a race.

The Iranian government wants to be a Nuclear power so that it can crack down on it's people without interference from the rest of the world and the Iranian people (or a large segment of) are trying to overturn the government before they get the same hands-off consideration a country like North Korea gets.

What will be interesting is to see what the west (the USA) does to prevent the Iranian government from getting Nuclear weapons...or to accelerate the opposition's goal of overturning the government.

Busy days for black ops and cia.

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The only way to bring about true change in Iran is to let the Iranian people bring it about themselves. We brought "Democracy" to Iraq and Afghanistan ... and look how that worked out.

Iran is not a threat to the world.

Yes, as will I, anyway I can even if it is on line,

We do a disservice to the people, by undermining their efforts with deflection.

Just stumbled across something else of possible interest ...

Iranian opposition mourns its spiritual leader

Iran’s embattled opposition is mourning the loss of its spiritual leader, Grand Ayatollah Hossein Ali Montazeri, whose death yesterday – while a significant short-term blow – could galvanise the reform movement.

His passing is a greater challenge to the jittery authorities, who fear his funeral in Qom this morning will become the flashpoint for a major flexing of popular opposition muscle.

Source

I had always though that the term , " pro-reform cleric " in Iran was an oxymoron ?

I wonder just how many " pro-reform cleric's " are in a position of power in Iran ?

Can any remaining pro-reform cleric's now expect to be put on a list ?

Will have to watch reports and see if we begin to notice a trend developing among dead reformists in Iran .

If there is a developing trend here , then this could be the best indicator as to how real the current government of Iran fears a revolt .

There was another story a couple of days ago stating that a nephew of a opposition leader in Iran was killed .

I guess it also has to be stated that for all we know they could simply be CIA hits designed to provoke unrest among the people of Iran .

It is honorable to save your fellow brothers from hanging in a common struggle against an evil government intent on holding on to power by whatever means necessary. When any government wants to begin killing resistance types and using violence, the federal government will find that they will have crossed an imaginary line that they will not be able to undo once crossed. The rath of the American public will be unmerciful and it will be final. What we wont see is anyone trying to save these elite criminals because on that day the enemy will be crystal clear to anyone and most will help and push to ensure that justice is administered quickly and without undue torture or macabre treatment.

In America one day soon I can envision a day of infamy when numerous Americans capture video footage taken of confrontations with Americans going after traitors is captured but in a different way from what we are seeing in Iran. Here in America when the crap hits the fan, there will be those with cell phones and video cameras taking footage of Americans angry at the direction our nation has turned. On that day of reckoning, the elite will understand the rath of the nation and will receive the message up close and in person.

What we will see one day are thousand of Americans, brave Americans rushing corrupt political criminals of this nation like Barney Frank, Rangel, Jesse Jackson, Nancy Pelosi and other criminal politicians and media puppets that crossed the line with the American public. We will see them fight, struggle and we will witness them being dragged to their final performance evaluation tree or light pole. We will fire them and relieve them of their duties and we will chastise them and then hang them for their murderous crimes. Afterwards the world will see Americans hooting and hollering like it was New Years Eve. Americans will be joyful for having finally taken Americas rath directly to those that pretended to be deaf to the will of the people. Those that called the average American Nazi's for standing up to corrupt politicians will apologize on that day with their lives. We will accept their apology only after we elevate them to the heights of their pole or tree.

In the end what we see happening at present in Iran could very well be an example of what might happen here in America when the criminal ganster administration gets dragged from office and laid to rest with the worms.
What we will see in any video captured will be American traitors being dragged to a pole or tree and hung by the neck until the criminal, greedy, corrupt politicians and media heads and media supporters of the communist ,marxist, fascist, Obama regime receive the justice that has alluded them for their crimes against humanity.

On this future date in infamy when America rises up and loudly says "no more" we will show the world what resistence really means. We will also show the world how free men and women treat despots and criminal gangsters pretending to be loyal to the nations principles and tenets of freedom and liberty. We will begin the great cleanup by taking out the trash criminal politicians and media liars. Afterwards we will be free to do whatever we must to defend our God given rights of freedom and pursuit of liberty and happiness but we will do so as free Americans and not as slaves to the Democratic Socialist Communist Fascist regime of Democrat and Republican traitors.

Only when the maddness stops will we as a nation return to sanity. To achieve that important goal requires that we face those that would undermine the constitution and those who would enslave us or kill us because it suits the needs of the evil elite. We will prevail, but to do so means having to take out the trash. Trash day is around the corner so get ready because it will happen and when it does we will finally witness the truthful change and hope we were promised.

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Ok stop mincing words and tell us how you really feel

But in all seriousness , there are many who agree with you , as some have even expressed in this thread .

I would think that there are already some in the U.S government that also see a potential " day of reckoning " coming . I am sure that if this day ever does come then we will find a lot of truth in what you have stated .



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Very moving video.

Sadly, I doubt many of those folks survived.

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Double post!

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This video made me sick to my stomach.

I am an Iranian. I have family in Iran. And yes, they are protesting, the children... even those older than I wanted to protest. This is not only sad for me, but scary as well.

I am not religious, and I find Israel to be a disgusting government. It's like a whole country that is a secret service. With their secret being fantastic new ways to kill off thousands and thousands of people. Why look for weapons in Iraq? They aren't there. I can tell you where the weapons are. But what will it matter anyway, because we all know that if any nation were to want strict policy on Israeli weapons program they would immediately be labelled an anti-semite.

Anyway, sorry for going off-topic, because this video has absolutely nothing to do with Israel, but damn, that takes some balls to save people from hanging. I hope they are still alive (though according to you guys they've been re-hung...)

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My heart goes to all my Persian friends! We just want our country back.. from these religious dictators! The people running the government aren't even Persians.... so sad ... when will all this violence end? When....

Why do we have all this outrage about Iran all of a sudden? What about the holocaust going on in Zimbabwe? Mugabe is allowed to get away with carnage..while we complain about china's dealings with drug smugglers and Iran dealing with their criminals. Oh yes..I forgot..zimbabwe is a poor country.

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What you said makes no sense whatsoever. If I had all the facts of any countries policies I wouldn't visit ATS to debate these things. If you see my post the "you" is aimed at the person I replied to, fairly self explanatory. I form intelligent and informed opinions based on the information I have to hand. See my avatar, there's a pretty big warning that says, well just that! If any government officials would like to U2U me their future regime plans so I can be sure not to make the same mistake please do so, until then I will continue to base my post's on the information available at the time, and that which I have previously researched.

Happy trolling to you Ma'am.

Just for the record, the correct term is "hanged," not hung.

Originally posted by sueloujo
Why do we have all this outrage about Iran all of a sudden? What about the holocaust going on in Zimbabwe? Mugabe is allowed to get away with carnage..while we complain about china's dealings with drug smugglers and Iran dealing with their criminals. Oh yes..I forgot..zimbabwe is a poor country.

Sad to say it mate but Zimbabwe matters very little these days. No oil reserves, no containment of communism any more in southern africa, a world away from the great game for the riches of the middle east. Zimbabwe had its chance and blew it, fact is it (like many places) matters little to people in the first world. Shame for a place that could have been an example to many

I wish we knew all the facts. The real ones. Not the ones we get from our computer or television screens. The West and others cannot seem to stay out of the regions politics and day to day operations, so I kinda feel like this is made for TV. (pun)

Pro-Pa-Gan-Da. We are seeing this for a reason.

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In this instance, you are correct.

But, people say I've been hung since birth ... I'm just saying.