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reply posted on 30-12-2009 @ 07:16 PM by AugustusMasonicus
Originally posted by PoetofTime
I have heard that the group isn't Satanic, but is it Luciferian?


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reply posted on 30-12-2009 @ 07:43 PM by network dude
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to be a bit more specific, masonry discusses God and refers to him as The Grand Architect of the Universe, among other things. Since masonry is not "brand specific" on religion, Jesus Christ is not mentioned in any blue lodge teachings. The reason is to not exclude any religion who may not fall into the Christian mindset. Plenty of masons are Christians, but many are not. Jesus is mentioned in other side orders of masonry.

I am a Christian and while I am Catholic and probably ex-communicated from the church, I am in complete agreement and harmony with the teachings of masonry. Lucifer is only mentioned on this site as far as the degrees are concerned. Some masonic writers have used the term, but in a different context than the evil dude. If you are interested in learning about life and yourself, masonry is a good choice. Nothing that would threaten your faith or obligation to God and Jesus Christ. I promise.



reply posted on 30-12-2009 @ 08:52 PM by Matthew Dark
reply to post by the_denv



What the heck did this guy just say?
Dude, is your keyboard broken?


reply posted on 30-12-2009 @ 09:03 PM by the_denv
Originally posted by Matthew Dark
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post by the_denv



What the heck did this guy just say?
Dude, is your keyboard broken?


LOL, not at all my friend. Those words are for those who claim to be Freemasons. I am calling their bluff.

There are good Freemasons and Bad Freemasons, just like any other. However, the bad Freemasons are those that also co-exist with different societies, religions etc.

I don't want to give away anything regarding my previous post; it is for those who think they know the truth.


reply posted on 30-12-2009 @ 09:16 PM by the_denv
Originally posted by xX aFTeRm4Th Xx
Just copy and paste it to a english to spanish translator, that might turn up some interesting results


English to Spanish translation:

Pero por t Str. Gp oa MM o L's P, que KNW, FTH jue se mts OT TRB L OT o JDH, TT nuestra BDS WL ars un BC una IPL sls una agria.

Interesting?

Well, I think you were just having a joke

EDIT: I see you updated your post, so it was not a joke and infact it was advice on how to make the cipher harder. Thanks

Though, the words I typed are the words that a Freemason should understand.

Originally posted by PoetofTime

I see. In that case, my apologies on making an assumption about your post.

I'm no mason (for now at least, I have had an offer though) but even I can tell what some of it means, like the three duties of masons (whatever it's called, I'm speaking from vague memory, please forgive my ignorance). But just taking some letters out of the word doesn't conceal it too much. Then again, I could be complely off, but there goes my assuming.

P.S. Matthew Dark: I'm digging the Sith Code dude. Yeah, I'm a star wars geek like that.



No need to apologize mate
I am not a Freemason either, I do a lot of research and investigation, and have good computer skills. There is no need to become a Freemason, in fact there is no reason to become apart of anything. Be yourself, you can still know everything.

So far you are on the right track and your memory serves you well. I don't want to give away too much That is all I can say, but you ARE on the right track and nothing is what it seems.

EDIT2:
Originally posted by network dude

to be a bit more specific, masonry discusses God and refers to him as The Grand Architect of the Universe, among other things. Since masonry is not "brand specific" on religion, Jesus Christ is not mentioned in any blue lodge teachings.


You need to believe in GOD before you become a Mason yes.
He loves Geometry, yes.

A picture is worth a thousand words:


Again, Nothing is what it seems.

"'Whenever a Templar was received into the Order he denied Christ; he was forced to spit on a crucifix and often even to trample it underfoot' - Michelet"

[edit on 30/12/2009 by the_denv]



reply posted on 30-12-2009 @ 11:56 PM by xX aFTeRm4Th Xx
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Better watch out or we will come get you in your sleep!

[ turns and makes ghost noise ]


reply posted on 31-12-2009 @ 12:01 AM by the_denv
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Starred! Because I LOL!

Feeble minds eh? Aftermath, just thought I would let you know there is a HOT topic just posted that any conspiracy theorist needs to hear. Even if it is not true, its a seriously good read. Rockefeller and Rothschild are apparently being targeted for assassination by Chinese and Japanese secret societies! (ATS Thread here).

Enjoy I am going to bed too its 6am


reply posted on 31-12-2009 @ 05:01 AM by network dude
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IF you only knew what you think you know, you would truely be enlightened. You live in conspiracy fantasy land. Real masonry is something that would boar you to tears. because it isn't about secret messages. It ins't about Knights Templar rituals. (there is a difference between the Knights and the masons) But don't let me spoil your good time. Go on thinking that there is an inner circle of sooper sekret masons who write seekret code and plot world domination. It's people like you who keep this site going after all.


reply posted on 31-12-2009 @ 08:07 AM by AugustusMasonicus
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Not all jurisdictions use ciphers, some are still mouth to ear, and not all ciphers are similar. The one we use in my jurisdiction incorporates many symbols in place of letters. Unless the particular Mason in question is using this cipher, and it is also the same as the ritual they utilize, it may hold little relavance.


reply posted on 31-12-2009 @ 08:54 AM by JoshNorton
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What have Wisdom, Strength and Beauty ever done to you?

Edit: I mean, I understand that by quoting the first line, you're saying that the 3rd degree has a resurrection in it. A lot of Christians are troubled by that possibility. In the context of the actual ritual, it's not a resurrection, but a moving of the body, still quite dead. Still, I could see why you'd bring that up, but why bring the three pillars into this thread? They don't really shed much light on the subject. Are you implying that there was subterfuge in the previous degrees?
The three pillars, my Brother, have been partially explained to you in a preceding Degree. They have..., however, a still further significance. They are deemed Wisdom, Strength and Beauty.
and goes on to talk about Wisdom, Strength and Beauty in regards to Hiram King of Tyre, King Solomon and Hiram Abiff.

Oooh. You got a cypher book. Big whoop. How does the bit you're quoting, encyphered or not, relate to the topic? Or are you just showing off that you have some hidden bit of knowledge that you don't even understand?

How does this have anything to do with the topic at hand?

[edit on 12/31/2009 by JoshNorton]
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